My MVD Story

Hi everyone, I thought I would share my MVD story and road to recovery with you all. This has been quite an emotional time for both myself and my family, not only because of the surgery but also because of what it seemed to unfold following surgery.

I arrived at the hospital at 7.30am on 31/10/12, as requested, after my husband had contacted them first to make sure that there was a bed for me. The anaesthetist came to talk to me and it seemed that nurses were in and out doing various things to prepare me for surgery as I’d been told on arrival that I was first on the list and going down at 8.30am. During this time I was told that my surgery may be cancelled as they weren’t sure whether there was a bed for me on HDU following the surgery; this left me with mixed feelings as I had got quite anxious that I was going to theatre so soon after arriving at the hospital and then to be told that it may now be cancelled! No-one seemed to keep us informed of what was happening (although probably because they didn’t know themselves), I was finally taken down to theatre at approx 9am after the ‘all clear on the bed situation’ had been given.

We had been told that the surgery itself would take between 2 to 2 and a half hours although the anaesthetist said it only takes between 1 to 1 and a half hours, saying that the surgeons always add an hour on!

My husband and my daughter walked down to the theatre doors with me to say our goodbyes and the last I remember was looking at the clock at 9.20am when the anaesthetist was putting the anaesthetic into the canula which had previously been put into my hand.

Following the surgery, and once I was awake I was told that the surgery had been successful, I was later taken to the HDU to recover. I was later told that due to complications during the operation that the surgery had actually taken just over 4 hours and that I had spent longer time in the recovery room following the op as I had reacted badly and that my temp had gone down to 32.something (I can’t remember exactly what they said).

The first few days were the worst, the pain was excruciating and I remember I couldn’t wait for the next round of the meds. They were feeding most of my meds intravenously so they worked pretty quickly. Initially they had me on morphine but soon had to stop this as I again reacted badly to this and couldn’t stop being sick on them. In-between my regular meds I was allowed to take oramorph, a drug I would never take prior to this op but since the op; I have been so grateful for it, as it really does do the job and anything which masks some of the pain has been welcomed.

I seemed to have one problem after another, what with the oramorph and the complications during surgery, now my blood pressure was constantly low as was my oxygen levels and as a result I was put on oxygen for the first 5 days, they kept swapping it from the full mask to the nasal tubes, then one nurse would take it off and the next would put it straight back on! I had been catheterised during the op and they left this in situ until the fifth day, taking it out near teatime then allowing me to walk with support back and forth to the bathroom. The following morning they said that now I was mobilising on my own I was ready for discharge home; although the doctors were arguing about this, as one asked why I wasn’t mobilising as yet, and another said ‘now you’re mobilising on your own......’. I don’t think that they talked to each other or really knew exactly what stage I had got to; either way, I was just happy that I was going home and could get back into my own bed again!

Prior to going home my Neurosurgeon came to see me to talk over my surgery and my discharge. He said that my surgery had taken a lot longer than he’d first anticipated as there had been complications. He said that the there had been a lot of scarring to my brain and the Trigeminal Nerve and that the nerve had been badly damaged and stretched by the amount of scarring I had to the nerve. He continued to say that the nerve now has lots of indentations to it again caused by the scarring. I was confused and asked how the nerve had got so scarred and had this been a result of the amount of pain I had been in, he said ‘No’ and that I must have had a bad fall or a very high fever which I had been hospitalised with when I was younger. I explained that I have never had a bad fall or the latter. He then looked confused and was quite adamant that I must have had a bad fall or blows to my head to cause such scarring. This is the bit that is hard for me to share but feel I need to as it’s a big part of my story and maybe without it I may never had developed TN. A flash from the past went through my head and I could feel the colour draining from my face but couldn’t share my thoughts with him as the curtains were open and everyone in the ward could hear our conversation.

My thoughts went flying back to my first marriage during which I was continually physically abused, the blows were nearly always to my head as no bruising was visible apart from black eyes on occasions. I was horrified and as soon as my husband arrived to collect me I broke down on him explaining what had just been said to me. This brought back a lot of horrific memories for me, it was bad enough going through what I did at that time but never ever imagined that it would raise its ugly head again, especially like this. I hated him at the time and now I hate him even more: if it wasn’t for him I would probably never had developed TN and therefore would never have had to go through this horrendous surgery causing so much worry to my husband and my family. A very close friend of mine on here told me that this isn’t the first time she has heard of this happening, there’s very little publicity of TN anyway so there is definitely very little connections made between physical abuse and TN - this makes me feel both angry and sad

Since being home, my recovery has been slow, but I can see progress on a daily basis. I continue to take a cocktail of drugs and oramorph in between, as required, although this is getting less and less. The hospital didn’t check whether or not I had opened my bowels before I was discharged (sorry for being so personal, but there is a point to this), by day 8 I was in agony to the point where my husband had to call NHS direct and then my GP. The point to this is for anyone who is about to go through this surgery if you haven’t ‘gone’ before you are discharged please be mindful to take something to help you go, I would hate to think of anyone going through such pain following their surgery!

Apart from the pain and continuous headaches, I haven’t really had any other problems since I’ve been home. However, within 30 mins of taking my meds yesterday morning I was violently sick, I’m not sure if this was just a build up of the meds as I felt fine (but tired) for the rest of the day. I even went out for my first walk, and apart from feeling that I was walking a bit slanted, I felt ok with it -and it felt so good to be outside!

I have had no real numbness following the op, apart from my tongue feeling a bit numb; I’m not sure if this may have been where the tube had been resting during the surgery, though this is near enough back to normal now. The only other thing I have noticed is that I have developed some twitching all over my body which I never had before and would be interested if anyone else has developed anything like this following their surgery. I hope that this is just a reaction to the meds and that it will eventually disappear.

(( Mandy )),
Thank you for sharing your personal experience with MVD.
I know it took a lot of strength and courage, and I’m so grateful to you for sharing. You never know how it may help someone else.
Did your NS say anything in terms of how your nerves may heal and your prognosis in his opinion for your TN pain?
I certainly hope you start to feel better soon, continue to be gentle with yourself and let the healing continue. Thinking of you, Mimi xo

hi mandy sending you love and plenty of hugs xxxx love lorraine

Hi Mimi, thank you for that and for the message you left under my photo, you are very kind .xxx I don't think the NS said anything in terms of the prognosis, not that I can remember anyway. I think I was in too much shock as to what he had just said and then having flash backs to my first marriage to really remember what he had said. I wish my husband had been present so he could have asked more questions in relation to this. I have made an apointment to see my own GP for Thursday and hope that he may be able to answer some of these questions.

When I look back now to my stay in hospital, it makes sense now as to why so many doctors kept coming and asking me what my pain was like on that side, it was hard to answer as I was in so much pain that I could hardly seperate what pain was what and coming from where. I am no longer having the shooting electric shocks but am having a lot of aching pain right in the middle of my jaw near to my ear but this could be the nerve still settling down....lets hope so!

The NS also said that sometimes when they do the MVD on one side that in 5% of patients who suffer with bialateral TN that whatever is pressing on the nerve on the other side moves, so I am now hoping that this is the case with me and that I don't have to go through this again in the New Year! xxx

Mimi said:

(( Mandy )),
Thank you for sharing your personal experience with MVD.
I know it took a lot of strength and courage, and I'm so grateful to you for sharing. You never know how it may help someone else.
Did your NS say anything in terms of how your nerves may heal and your prognosis in his opinion for your TN pain?
I certainly hope you start to feel better soon, continue to be gentle with yourself and let the healing continue. Thinking of you, Mimi xo

Thank you Lorraine, that means a lot to me. I hope that you are also doing okay and are not in too much pain! xxx

lorraine said:

hi mandy sending you love and plenty of hugs xxxx love lorraine

Thank you for sharing your story! As I was reading, before I got to your previous abuse, I was suspecting the doc was lying to you about something, haha! But I guess it stands to reason that long-term abuse could lead to this. God bless you. I am sorry that that happened to you. ((((((((big hugs)))))))))))

I too was a young abused woman - this gives me a pause for thought....thanks so much for sharing your story - What I would do about the twitching is talk to druggest/pharmacist - right away and tell them all the meds you've been on since your surgery and see if they can pinpoint it - don't wait for your follow up...... AND it does take up to ONE year to feel normal. I just got to my ONE year and things are good.

Kimberly

Hi Mandy:)

I feel such gratitude towards you for your bravery in sharing your story. We both know I already knew this, but it does not stop me being double proud of you. I know it takes a lot to talk about such stuff ( we are British after all). Stiff upper lip and all that rubbish…

I cried when you sent me the photos and again when you told me this story. It breaks my heart. If only people knew what damage they did, then again do abusers care? They should.

We all hope and pray your recovery is swift and leads to pain free for you. Much love J x

Ummm, thanks so much for sharing your experiences and your MVD so far...means so very much to me -

((strength and hugs to you!))

Cris

Oh Mandy as someone with bilateral TN I certainly hope so for your sake and eventually mine!!! ; )
Ditto everything Jackie said! Xox

Your story is a testament to your strength and perseverance so I know you will come through this recovery with flying colors. My your find peace within yourself and heal on the inside and out. Sending you Love and light. Xoxo

Just a short note as my broadband box is broken and my replacement won’t be here for another 3 days!!! Howeva did we manage before wireless Internet!
Anyway, I would just like to thank everyone for your messages and support, I have started cutting down on my pain killers and have managed ok so far, so fingers crossed as it seems the pain/headaches are becoming less and less each day. Rest is definitely the best way forward and so far I haven’t had any pain in my left side so hopefully the MVD has fixed both sides, but I know it’s only early days as yet!
Jackie thank you so much for your kind words, it was you
who gave me the strength to share my story and it seems that doing so has made others think about their TN and how it may have been brought on or how the nerve may have been damaged through any scarring caused by such abuse! Just for the record Jackie I don’t think abusers do care about their victims as I know my ex-husband went on to physically abuse at least another 2 women after me, but as you said I do have a lovely, caring husband now.
Julie, I do appreciate what you are saying and take your concerns on board. I have tried myself to see if any research has ever been done in this ara but have come up with nothing as yet. At the moment all I can go on is by what the NS said to me and I have never experienced any other falls etc and again I do intend to have further discussions with both my own GP and the NS during my next apt with him!
Love and (((hugs))) to all and thank you again for your messages x x x

If it helps any I hate your ex-husband too! What a horrible thing, I was verbally abused by a parent when I was growing up and continued the pattern with men...now I just avoid negative people. You are so strong and I am so sorry that you had to relive all that crap...but now its in the past and you are getting better!!!

Dont worry about the jaw pain, I had my mvd on october 3rd, and it wasnt until this week that all the pains went away. I still had tooth pain and I felt like someone was always punching me in the side of the face and trying to rip my skin off, but that now has gone away. I was told by my neuro this was all normal and he wouldnt be concerned unless I still had the pain for 6 monthss.


Mandy said:

Hi Mimi, thank you for that and for the message you left under my photo, you are very kind .xxx I don't think the NS said anything in terms of the prognosis, not that I can remember anyway. I think I was in too much shock as to what he had just said and then having flash backs to my first marriage to really remember what he had said. I wish my husband had been present so he could have asked more questions in relation to this. I have made an apointment to see my own GP for Thursday and hope that he may be able to answer some of these questions.

When I look back now to my stay in hospital, it makes sense now as to why so many doctors kept coming and asking me what my pain was like on that side, it was hard to answer as I was in so much pain that I could hardly seperate what pain was what and coming from where. I am no longer having the shooting electric shocks but am having a lot of aching pain right in the middle of my jaw near to my ear but this could be the nerve still settling down....lets hope so!

The NS also said that sometimes when they do the MVD on one side that in 5% of patients who suffer with bialateral TN that whatever is pressing on the nerve on the other side moves, so I am now hoping that this is the case with me and that I don't have to go through this again in the New Year! xxx

Mimi said:

(( Mandy )),
Thank you for sharing your personal experience with MVD.
I know it took a lot of strength and courage, and I'm so grateful to you for sharing. You never know how it may help someone else.
Did your NS say anything in terms of how your nerves may heal and your prognosis in his opinion for your TN pain?
I certainly hope you start to feel better soon, continue to be gentle with yourself and let the healing continue. Thinking of you, Mimi xo

sorry I didnt get to finish, my internet sucks!!

Anywhoo, I feel better already, and you will too. Just take it easy! I was scared out of my wits that I was stuck with the ATN stuff forever, but it didnt happen that way.

Welcome to the post MVD club, and here's to years of no more pain

Wendy

Mandy - thanks again for sharing...it is hard to talk about being abused / hurt by someone you trusted... I was there, as you know.

Julie - how does it sound 'funny' ? The continued beating / hurting / banging on the same side as the now TN is more than coincidental; don't ya think? I have wondered since mine all started. There is just so much a person's body can take before there are consequences...

God help us and Bless us - ((hugs to you all))

Cris

Bless your sweet heart! I hope you are continuing to improve daily. More importantly, anger like that rests in our jaws (clenching or gritting of teeth) Slowly...slowly try to at least be "willing" to forgive. Remember, your anger doesn't do anything to your ex, but it does continue to hurt you. Time to take your power back..:) Thats a good feeling.

Best of luck to you

Beth

Dear Mandy,

Thank you for being so open about all this, for allowing me some insight into another's suffering and recovery. Live long and prosper! Craig

This is honestly so helpful for me. We're looking in to MVD, and it's great to here peoples experiences. (I'm sorry your's were so awful)

It took a lot of courage for you to post on here about the abuse, that's very admirable. <3

I wish the best for you, and that your pain continues to decrease. All my love,

Madeleine

hi mandy, i was intrigued by your story, and saddened by the fact that your past life may be the reason you have this terrible disease (TN) i am having my op very soon, but at my last MRI there was no real evidence of my TN nerve being touched by a blood vessel. my surgeon still wants to operate though, but i was very depressed by the news, and was hoping it was going to be more clear cut. did your MRI show the nerve and blood vessel touching. or has anyone else had this experience? now i am even more scared than i was before. love and pain free days ahead for you all.

I feel the same way as you; my MRI came back with no distinct blood vessel touching my nerve, but there's still the possibility. My neurosurgeon still wants to operate, but I've lost all confidence that it'll help.

I hope your surgery will go well. <3

anne morris said:

hi mandy, i was intrigued by your story, and saddened by the fact that your past life may be the reason you have this terrible disease (TN) i am having my op very soon, but at my last MRI there was no real evidence of my TN nerve being touched by a blood vessel. my surgeon still wants to operate though, but i was very depressed by the news, and was hoping it was going to be more clear cut. did your MRI show the nerve and blood vessel touching. or has anyone else had this experience? now i am even more scared than i was before. love and pain free days ahead for you all.