Former lurker, new member (super long)

Hi everyone, I'm new here.

I've been lurking since I suspected I had TN last summer and didn't know what to do (originally diagnosed with TMJ by my GP and I just knew something wasn't right with that) and I decided to finally join now. And I guess I should start out with my story.

I guess I have TN1 and TN2 since I get the stabs/shocks and the chronic throbbing vice-like pain. I thought it was originally a tooth problem but once it started to move around, I knew it couldn't be that. It started on the left side, and I did fall off a step stool as a child and broke my fall with my face and since then I do get the rare feeling that someone is drilling into my left eyebrow, so I figured the two were related. I told my GP about that, she did confirm that my eyebrow issue is definitely a nerve damage issue, but thought the rest of it was TMJ and gave me flexeril. Literally two days into flexeril, all the pain went over on the right side around my jaw and cheekbone and I gave it two weeks to do anything. It didn't, so I called the doctor and she told me all she could really do is recommend that I go to a dentist for a night guard.

In the meantime, I have a friend who has had TMJ almost her entire life and is kind of an expert on it and how to live with it. I kept asking her questions that made her curious, like "how do you wash your face when you get pain when you touch your face?" and "what do you do when it's windy and it feels like someone took a sledgehammer to your face?" She's in nursing school and found a description of the pain someone with TN would experience and she showed it to me and asked if it sounded familiar. I could have written that, no joke. So I set up an appointment with a neurologist (I work in retail and we all know that talking is so not fun, so my shifts were awful) and literally in 10 minutes he had me diagnosed with TN, right maxillary and mandibular nerve involvement.

Great, I get a diagnosis, it makes sense and here's some carbamazepine. I knew it had the potential for side effects (I really love pharmacology and medicine in general) but I just wanted confirmation, so I took it. And it worked like a dream. Until the second dose and then all the horrible side effects kicked in, complete with hallucinations. Called the neuro, they told me to go off it immediately. Recommended gabapentin, but after my experience with carbamazepine, I wasn't exactly excited. He wasn't really willing to prescribe anything else, frankly, so I just left it at that and decided to manage as best I could without risking another side effect filled few days so close to Christmas.

Fast forward to earlier this month and I go see my GP for my yearly refill appointment and I wanted to ask her about gabapentin and other options since she knows my penchant to get weird side effects (fun fact, when making my appointment, they were originally going to put me down for fibromyalgia because they'd never heard of TN at the front desk, I just told them to put it down as nerve pain). Apparently my neuro never told my GP that I really had TN, so I gave her that update and asked her about Baclofen instead of gabapentin. She told me it probably wouldn't work as well since it doesn't directly impact nerves (already knew that, but it's safer) but it was up to me and she understood my concerns and prescribed it. I did ask about Marinol since the pain destroys my appetite and she's concerned I'm losing weight, and she didn't balk at the idea, but also didn't prescribe it. I've been on Baclofen for about two or three weeks now. Still getting some pain, but even at the worst on Baclofen, it's still better than it was when I had to break down and go to the neuro.

Complicating this fun journey... I don't have insurance. I can't afford it. So the Gabitril I decided I'd be okay with trying is out of my budget at a whopping $186 a month for one a day at the cheapest pharmacy near me. And no one at my job knows I have this disorder. I did mention taking a muscle relaxant the night before work once, but said it was "because I worked out kind of hard." I don't think they'd fire me for having it since as far as they know nothing is wrong, so they think I can still do my job, but I don't want to be babied and I don't want them to think I can't do my job if I tell them about this, even if I'm in horrible pain after a shift. I won't even tell friends I don't trust because I'm scared they'll come in and be like, "hey Meerkat, how's your facial nerve thing today?" and then I have to explain.

So that's where I am now, and I promise my future posts won't be an essay. I took an Ativan in hopes it helps me out tomorrow and helps the sleep (yay Baclofen aggravating my insomnia) and it tends to make me very talkative... no more posting under the influence of benzos, I promise.

Hi Meerkat! I'm glad you're not having to lurk anymore but i'm glad for you that you have this rotten thing. It's great that you got your diagnosis but again not great that you got it. I hope you get what I mean!
I've got ATN with periods of TN although I'm lucky that Tegretol has kept the TN at bay for several months now. I take Nortriptyline as well for the yukky burning, numb, aching bits although I honestly don't know how well they work for me!
I tried telling a couple of women at work what was wrong with me and got the blank eyed stare and the standard " Have you tried a headache tablet?"

Hi Meerkat,

I'm glad that you got a proper diagnosis. Many of us have had misdiagnoses of TMJ problems on our way to a TN diagnosis.

Have you looked into Tricyclic Anti-depressants like Nortriptyline or Amitriptyline? Many of us with atypical TN have some success with those meds. I was on Amitriptyline for a year and am now on Nortriptyline. Both have been easy to put up with as far as side effects go and have helped me immensely.

Jane

Actually, it's funny you say that because I've been on nortriptyline for chronic migraines for like, 5 1/2 years now. Oddly, my chronic migraine cleared up the second the TN started. Seriously, I haven't had a single migraine since last summer, and I would usually get them maybe twice a week. My GP thought that was really odd and I have to wonder if there's not a connection...

justjane37 said:

Hi Meerkat,

I'm glad that you got a proper diagnosis. Many of us have had misdiagnoses of TMJ problems on our way to a TN diagnosis.

Have you looked into Tricyclic Anti-depressants like Nortriptyline or Amitriptyline? Many of us with atypical TN have some success with those meds. I was on Amitriptyline for a year and am now on Nortriptyline. Both have been easy to put up with as far as side effects go and have helped me immensely.

Jane

Ugh, I know that feeling. That's why I joined, to be around people who know what this pain is like and aren't just going to tell me to go take an Advil. I frequently have to tell people this is something that opioids don't even touch.

catwoman said:

Hi Meerkat! I'm glad you're not having to lurk anymore but i'm glad for you that you have this rotten thing. It's great that you got your diagnosis but again not great that you got it. I hope you get what I mean!
I've got ATN with periods of TN although I'm lucky that Tegretol has kept the TN at bay for several months now. I take Nortriptyline as well for the yukky burning, numb, aching bits although I honestly don't know how well they work for me!
I tried telling a couple of women at work what was wrong with me and got the blank eyed stare and the standard " Have you tried a headache tablet?"

Hi Meercat, I think I answered another post of yours regarding telling people at work. Glad you found this site. Good information and understanding here. Oh yes, I've heard the headache tablet thing.

I don't even try to tell most people (except close friends) what I have. When I do tell someone, I use the term "damaged CRANIAL nerve" instead of saying trigeminal neuralgia. They seem ot 'get it'.

It’s impossible for others to understand what we go through. My mother constantly says, “did you take an Advil?” LoL… All I can do is laugh and then secretly cry because I feel so alone. I am also glad I found this group. I am new myself, but plan on sticking around because you all understand. No one in my life understands, not family, friends, or co-workers (who I hide this from). Thank the Lord for support groups.

Meerkat, I have had TN from hitting my face on a concrete floor in 2009. I was also diagnosed in a mild traumatic brain injury. I have been on lots of meds. Marinol definitely has helped but I found, not cheap. My neurologist has referred me to a pain management doctor. He has put me on Baclofen along with my other meds. I found I have started getting results but I was getting extremely tired during the day. He adjusted it so I only take it at night. With my Ambien, I now sleep 6 to 7 hours versus the four I had been getting. I have also reduced the number of opioids I have to take and l last longer during the day. There are still days I don't function because it shoots through the roof but my non-stop pain has reduced to a place where I can suck it up. It's actually kind of funny how your pain tolerance changes. I had to have some dental work done and I told him to do it all in one appointment because I didn't want to be triggered twice. He was blown away that I didn't even flinch when he was giving me all the shots to numb my mouth. People just don't understand the level of pain we go through every day. And he had even did work in a residency program dealing with TN patients. But I digress. Maybe your doctor can change when you take your medicine to help you get through your day! Most people here did not have a facial trauma like we have had so some things just don't apply. If you want to discuss meds, Just let me know. Obviously, every combo is different and every person is different but I have been on a lot of different combos that could maybe work!