MVD on both sides!

Hi Jacqueline, Thank you so much for sharing your story with me, it was very good of you! When I was first diagnosed with TN I was also put on Tegretol and could not tolerate it, I was very much like what you described, I was unable to talk, walk, my memory totally went, I felt like I was in a bubble (I really can't understand why some people take drugs for recreational reasons as if thats what it does to you then wheres the fun in that - sorry don't know where that came from!). Anyway my meds were changed several times before I was but on Lyrica and Dosulapine, I have managed a little better on these and slowely I am able to funtion a lot better than I did, although,memory, thought prcocess and balance are still problamatic which is why the Neuro suggests the MVD's as pain has crept back in and they are unable to up my meds due to lack of toleration to them!

Again, like yourself, winter is a bad time for me, one little bit of wind onto my face, bang off it goes, like a swing boat, one side, then the other! Change of temp is def one of my key triggers.

I am still waiting for a date for my MVD, but the Neuro said it would be sometime this month. He said that due to (often) delays with the post that his secretary might just ring me with dates for both my pre-op assessment and for the MVD. I'm jumping everytime the phone rings, i some ways I just wish I had the date then I would know what timescales I'm working to and in other ways I'm terrified of getting that call or letter as, in my mind, that makes it more real, if that doesn't sound stupid!

I'm so sorry to hear that you are struggling so bad again with both the pain and the side effects from the meds as it sounds as though you have been through so much already. But I hope you have a lovely time at the wedding today, even if your husband has to prop you up! You sound as though you are a very strong and brave lady indeed.

The Neuro did mention the Rhiziotomy to me and did explain this procedure as he said that he has to, but at present he said that he feels that the MVD would be a better for me, especially for the right side.

Like yourself, I also wish you well for your forthcoming MVD and sincerly hope that this time it will both work better for you and for a much longer period of time. I know I am so looking forward to getting my life back and to be able to go out and about as I wish. I already have one grandson and was unable to help my daughter out when he was born last Nov and I have another 2 grandchildren due, one in Nov and one in Dec and I really don't want to miss out on those early days again due to been doped up by the drugs, but hey, what will be will be, I have to think positive in that I will have years ahead of me to enjoy them!

Hope you enjoy your day

Mandy : ) x



Jacqueline Charron-Chapman said:

hi mandy, my experience with MVD was like this. im sure everyone has completely different stories so dont let any one persons experience scare, sway or decide anything regarding your own. i do not regret doing it as i had a good year of about 80% improvement or more plus i was able to get off 1400 mg of tegretol at the time. so before my sugery i was secluded to my bedroom, couldnt talk, i had to write to communicate. i basically only got up to go to the bathroom, get cleaned up and thats it in the weeks before. after the surgery, i awoke with so much pain it wasnt funny. i was crying screaming it didnt work, it didnt work. the nurse came and upped my pain meds anf explained that my head would hurt from the surgery and my TN might be worse because they were touching everything inside. it did settle down and i only had pain from the surgery. i weaned myself off tegratol in a few weeks and i could do everything i did before i got TN. i went camping 3 time in the summer and spent so much time with my family. i still had a few triggers but they were very brief and i managed with out meds. i was so elated i barely went in the house. im a real outdoorsy person and was making up for lost time. the winter was still not my friend but still better. the pain i did have was just as painful as before but it was the frquency that had improved. i went from 24-7 when awake to only occasionally. keeping in mind i was still dealing with the left side which was manageable with no meds but increasingly got worse and i had to start tegretol again about 6-9 months ago. im up to 1200 and i am trapped in my home again. i only go out if i have to. i recently started on percocet as needed if i do want to go to a social event which is very rare, but i do have a wedding on sat which i will go, even though i will be high and my husband will have to help me if needed. i will still have pain and i have to wear ear plugs out of the house 100% of the time for the noise sets it off. unfortunately in the meantime my left side has returned and is slowly getting worse. so i had about 1 and 1/4 years out of the surgery. yes im very disappointed bu do not regret it. it does make me nervous to do the other side, but my surgeon would like to try and he has had many success's with bilateral and people with MS as well. after the surgery we will address the left side again but with a different option. i dont want to go back into the same side. he mentioned a rhiziotomy of some sort. i forget all the details, but will discuss later. i dont have any residual problem from the surgery except a small numb spot behind my ear which only feels weird when its ichy and i cant feel it when i scratch it. every one has a different outcome because everyones TN is different, so there are no guarantees. my decision to do the MVD was that it wasnt getting any better by doing nothing at all, so i took the risk to possibly alleviate the pain and improve my quality of life. i dont know how bad yours is now but dont wait till it gets that bad. it took 6 years for dx for me so it was pretty out of control by the time i was given any options. good luck with any decision you make and only you knows whats right for you. like my surgeon said to me. even though he knows TN causes excruciating pain, but he cant feel our pain so only we know when enough is enough and we need to try something. when is your MVD again? i will pray for you if thats okay, and for a very possitive outcome. sincerely, Jacqueline

Mandy said:

Hi Jacqueline, No, I don't have any MS symptons, although my GP was initially worried about this but my first MRI showed no signs of MS which was a blessing. I am deeply sorry though that you and Mimi have to suffer with both. My GP initially told me that TN can be one of the tell-tale signs that someone has MS and I have read on here of so many people who suffer with both, this world can be so cruel at times!

How did you find your first MVD and out of interest what was your recovery like? I am now trying to get my house into order before I have mine and over the past couple of weeks I have decorated my bedroom, one of the spare bedrooms and now I'm on with the living room.....everyone is saying that I'm just trying to keep my mind occupied away from thinking about the forthcoming MVD, and to be honest, I think they are right as the rooms didn't really need doing, but I guess this is my way of dealing with it!!!!

I wish you luck for your next MVD in Nov and keep us posted as to how it goes ! Mandy : )

hi mandy,

i know what you mean about waiting for a date. i new my date the first time but this time i already had the pre-op but am waiting for the actual date. it will be the first 2 weeks of nov for sure. you sound so much like me, when you get your mind set that you want to do something, you do it. regarding the painting and redecorating the rooms. you do deserve a pretty room to recupe for sure, so go for it. HaHa. oh, when i said i couldn't talk and was couped up in my room and such, it was because of the pain not the meds. i was on a high dose of meds but we could not get the pain under control. the pain was keeping me secluded because even just moving set it off at its worst. i actually seem to be able to tolerate tegretol pretty well. i have side effects but they seem to happen worse during a period of time in the day when they "kick in" is what i call it. it lasts a couple hours then it balances out. of course i have the brain fog, confusion memory etc.. but it is always the pain that seems to break through no matter what dose im on. please keep me posted on your date for your MVD. i will be thinking of you. too bad we couldnt get it done together and heal together.LOL take care, Jacqueline

Mandy said:

Hi Jacqueline, Thank you so much for sharing your story with me, it was very good of you! When I was first diagnosed with TN I was also put on Tegretol and could not tolerate it, I was very much like what you described, I was unable to talk, walk, my memory totally went, I felt like I was in a bubble (I really can't understand why some people take drugs for recreational reasons as if thats what it does to you then wheres the fun in that - sorry don't know where that came from!). Anyway my meds were changed several times before I was but on Lyrica and Dosulapine, I have managed a little better on these and slowely I am able to funtion a lot better than I did, although,memory, thought prcocess and balance are still problamatic which is why the Neuro suggests the MVD's as pain has crept back in and they are unable to up my meds due to lack of toleration to them!

Again, like yourself, winter is a bad time for me, one little bit of wind onto my face, bang off it goes, like a swing boat, one side, then the other! Change of temp is def one of my key triggers.

I am still waiting for a date for my MVD, but the Neuro said it would be sometime this month. He said that due to (often) delays with the post that his secretary might just ring me with dates for both my pre-op assessment and for the MVD. I'm jumping everytime the phone rings, i some ways I just wish I had the date then I would know what timescales I'm working to and in other ways I'm terrified of getting that call or letter as, in my mind, that makes it more real, if that doesn't sound stupid!

I'm so sorry to hear that you are struggling so bad again with both the pain and the side effects from the meds as it sounds as though you have been through so much already. But I hope you have a lovely time at the wedding today, even if your husband has to prop you up! You sound as though you are a very strong and brave lady indeed.

The Neuro did mention the Rhiziotomy to me and did explain this procedure as he said that he has to, but at present he said that he feels that the MVD would be a better for me, especially for the right side.

Like yourself, I also wish you well for your forthcoming MVD and sincerly hope that this time it will both work better for you and for a much longer period of time. I know I am so looking forward to getting my life back and to be able to go out and about as I wish. I already have one grandson and was unable to help my daughter out when he was born last Nov and I have another 2 grandchildren due, one in Nov and one in Dec and I really don't want to miss out on those early days again due to been doped up by the drugs, but hey, what will be will be, I have to think positive in that I will have years ahead of me to enjoy them!

Hope you enjoy your day

Mandy : ) x



Jacqueline Charron-Chapman said:

hi mandy, my experience with MVD was like this. im sure everyone has completely different stories so dont let any one persons experience scare, sway or decide anything regarding your own. i do not regret doing it as i had a good year of about 80% improvement or more plus i was able to get off 1400 mg of tegretol at the time. so before my sugery i was secluded to my bedroom, couldnt talk, i had to write to communicate. i basically only got up to go to the bathroom, get cleaned up and thats it in the weeks before. after the surgery, i awoke with so much pain it wasnt funny. i was crying screaming it didnt work, it didnt work. the nurse came and upped my pain meds anf explained that my head would hurt from the surgery and my TN might be worse because they were touching everything inside. it did settle down and i only had pain from the surgery. i weaned myself off tegratol in a few weeks and i could do everything i did before i got TN. i went camping 3 time in the summer and spent so much time with my family. i still had a few triggers but they were very brief and i managed with out meds. i was so elated i barely went in the house. im a real outdoorsy person and was making up for lost time. the winter was still not my friend but still better. the pain i did have was just as painful as before but it was the frquency that had improved. i went from 24-7 when awake to only occasionally. keeping in mind i was still dealing with the left side which was manageable with no meds but increasingly got worse and i had to start tegretol again about 6-9 months ago. im up to 1200 and i am trapped in my home again. i only go out if i have to. i recently started on percocet as needed if i do want to go to a social event which is very rare, but i do have a wedding on sat which i will go, even though i will be high and my husband will have to help me if needed. i will still have pain and i have to wear ear plugs out of the house 100% of the time for the noise sets it off. unfortunately in the meantime my left side has returned and is slowly getting worse. so i had about 1 and 1/4 years out of the surgery. yes im very disappointed bu do not regret it. it does make me nervous to do the other side, but my surgeon would like to try and he has had many success's with bilateral and people with MS as well. after the surgery we will address the left side again but with a different option. i dont want to go back into the same side. he mentioned a rhiziotomy of some sort. i forget all the details, but will discuss later. i dont have any residual problem from the surgery except a small numb spot behind my ear which only feels weird when its ichy and i cant feel it when i scratch it. every one has a different outcome because everyones TN is different, so there are no guarantees. my decision to do the MVD was that it wasnt getting any better by doing nothing at all, so i took the risk to possibly alleviate the pain and improve my quality of life. i dont know how bad yours is now but dont wait till it gets that bad. it took 6 years for dx for me so it was pretty out of control by the time i was given any options. good luck with any decision you make and only you knows whats right for you. like my surgeon said to me. even though he knows TN causes excruciating pain, but he cant feel our pain so only we know when enough is enough and we need to try something. when is your MVD again? i will pray for you if thats okay, and for a very possitive outcome. sincerely, Jacqueline

Mandy said:

Hi Jacqueline, No, I don't have any MS symptons, although my GP was initially worried about this but my first MRI showed no signs of MS which was a blessing. I am deeply sorry though that you and Mimi have to suffer with both. My GP initially told me that TN can be one of the tell-tale signs that someone has MS and I have read on here of so many people who suffer with both, this world can be so cruel at times!

How did you find your first MVD and out of interest what was your recovery like? I am now trying to get my house into order before I have mine and over the past couple of weeks I have decorated my bedroom, one of the spare bedrooms and now I'm on with the living room.....everyone is saying that I'm just trying to keep my mind occupied away from thinking about the forthcoming MVD, and to be honest, I think they are right as the rooms didn't really need doing, but I guess this is my way of dealing with it!!!!

I wish you luck for your next MVD in Nov and keep us posted as to how it goes ! Mandy : )

Jac and Mandy Wishing both you lovely ladies all the best with your MVDs and so glad you have each other for support. Keep letting us know how your both doing and when you hear!!! xxxxx

Hi, everyone, just to let you all know, I've now received my date for next Wed 31st Oct for my MVD surgery. Any words of encouragement will be gratefully received as I am fairly anxious about this but have also been uplifted at the same time by the stories I have read on here lately about positive outcomes of this surgery.

Mandy, I am so excited for you, this could be your last last few days of pain. Keep in touch and come on here whenever your feeling nervous or anxious as it is only natural to feel that way, Let the countdown commence!

xxxxx hugs xxxxxx love xxxxxxxx

hi mandy, i will be praying for you next week. a halloween MVD. mine is for nov.27 now. i know how you feel, hang in there and think positive thoughts. keep us posted and i hope you have a good recovery. hugs!!!! jacq

Mandy said:

Hi, everyone, just to let you all know, I've now received my date for next Wed 31st Oct for my MVD surgery. Any words of encouragement will be gratefully received as I am fairly anxious about this but have also been uplifted at the same time by the stories I have read on here lately about positive outcomes of this surgery.

Hi Elaine, thanks for your message, but if only it was going to be my last few days of pain, I have to go through it all over again on the other side before i can escape this torture ha ha! So can't get rid of these bloody awful meds for a little while longer either lol!

So unfortunately, you can't get rid of me that easy ha ha! I had the pre-op assessment yesterday which was quite reasurring and the nurse had a lovely manner about her so that was nice. She did say that if anything shows up on my chest x-ray which i had on Mon, due to my chest infection, that my surgery may be postponed for 3/4 weeks, I really hope that all is well as now I have the date i just want to get it over and done with! Plus I woke up during the night sneezing and with a runny nose so out with the cold and flu tablets it was as soon as I got up, just in case ha ha!

Love and (((hugs))) as always xxx

Hi Jacqueline, thanks for your message and good luck with yours for the 27th Nov too! My friend said to me yesterday at least with me having mine on halloween that it'll be one less witch on the streets that night, what lovely friends I have ha ha! My reply was that if she wasn't careful I would haunt her that night and at least i wouldn't have to make myself up for the occassion, it would be the natural look ha ha!

Seriously though, I just want to get it over and done with now but they are worried about my chest infection and if my chest x-ray isn't clear they said it could be another 3/4 weeks before I can have it done so please keep your fingers crossed for me!

Lovely to hear from you and keep in touch

Mandy xxx

Jacqueline Charron-Chapman said:

hi mandy, i will be praying for you next week. a halloween MVD. mine is for nov.27 now. i know how you feel, hang in there and think positive thoughts. keep us posted and i hope you have a good recovery. hugs!!!! jacq

Mandy said:

Hi, everyone, just to let you all know, I've now received my date for next Wed 31st Oct for my MVD surgery. Any words of encouragement will be gratefully received as I am fairly anxious about this but have also been uplifted at the same time by the stories I have read on here lately about positive outcomes of this surgery.

Mandy which side are they doing first, is it the worse side? At least then you'll be in only half the pain! Hope the x ray comes back clear after all the waiting! I will be thinking of Jac on the 27th and you on Halloween! xxxxx

hi mandy, you certainly dont want a cold when you come to after mvd. OMG that would be very painful with a stuffed head or coughing. even though you want to get it over with dont do it under those cercumstances. gook luck! jacq

Hi Elaine and Jacqueline, sorry for late reply, bit of a hectic weekend and haven't really had chance to get on line much. I'm having my right side done first as the neurosurgeon said that was the worst side and has a loop around the nerve! At least they can see what they're working with!

Chest infection has finally cleared up and x-ray came back clear which was really good to hear, especially being a smoker! I was going to try and stop smoking before my op but i think as it's come closer I've smoked more not less but whi knows as I won't be able to smoke after my op this may also be the start of me stopping smoking.....I really hope so as I hate been addicted to the damm things!

Right, I best go for now and will get back on line as soon as I can!

Mandy xxx

Mandy, every time a witch knocks on the door I will be thinking of you!! Joking apart all the very best for Wednesday, that damm loop will soon leave your nerve in peace xxxxxx

Aw, cheers Elaine ha ha! At least that made me laugh (you know, that witchs gargle that they do hee hee!). At least i'll be able to say with SOME truth behind it that i am no longer loopy!

Thanks for your best wishes and I will speak to you as soon as I'm feeling up to it! Love and (((hugs))) xxxx

good luck mandy, ill be thinking of you. jacq

Mandy said:

Aw, cheers Elaine ha ha! At least that made me laugh (you know, that witchs gargle that they do hee hee!). At least i'll be able to say with SOME truth behind it that i am no longer loopy!

Thanks for your best wishes and I will speak to you as soon as I'm feeling up to it! Love and (((hugs))) xxxx

Thinking of you Mandy!! All the best tomorrow!
(( hugs )) Mimi

TODAYS THE DAY! Will be thinking of you my Lovely ....... ((( hugs ))) xxxx

UPDATE: I have just spoken to Mandy's husband. Mandy is now in recovery and her surgeon says that the operation has been successful and Mandy is recovering but doing fine. As I know more I will pass it on. So relieved!

Thanks for the update Jackie! You’re a sweetheart! I’m sooo happy for Mandy! :slight_smile:

Jackie that is wonderful news, well done Mandy, so looking forward to hearing from you again xx

So good to hear. I hope she has a speedy recovery.