Interesting "Head and Face Pain" Specializing Neurologist Appointment

Hello!

So, my appointment with the "Head and Face Pain Specializing Neurologist", was today. I will be getting a "Trigeminal Protocol" MRI now. To my happy surprise, she actually knew what I was talking about, or what I knew I was talking about thanks to members, Vesper and Red.

She is the first Neurologist to actually get my diagnosis correct, and give me a hard copy of the paperwork stating it formally. Before now, my Pain Management Diagnosis was ATN and my Neurologic Diagnosis was ATFP. So glad we cleared that up!

Diagnosis: Atypical Trigeminal Neuralgia

Her spoken prognosis seemed to be, though, lifetime maintenance of medication. All she wants proceed with is to up my Neurontin a lot! (Whew! Glad I'm not dependent upon her for Pain Management. My kids would not have a Mom, but an agonized wreck in a fetal position, instead). Actually, Neurontin is the only med in my arsenal that I COULD have a pain free day without! I take it anyway. I told her that, since I'm raising kids, who need me to be functional, I had better just stick to what I know works, no time for years of experimentation (I know others are not offered any choice, and to say I am thankful and blessed that I am, even seems like an understatement).

I said, well, "something has to be causing it".

She replied, "Well, most of he time, they cannot tell what causes it. You know, we still don't know what causes M.S.". (But, they do. They don't know why, but it presents as "sclera" in the brain, thus the term, "multiple sclerosis". I mean, it doesn't quite qualify as an "invisible illness", like ATN, right? )

She said, "One can have a perfectly normal brain, and have Atypical Trigeminal Neuralgia. Sometimes we get lucky, and find a vessel looped, or something."

She agreed with me that why we probably see so many "Atypicals" in this support group is because "Typicals" can a lot of time, have MVD, Gamma Knife, or another procedure and go on with life, or at least have a period of remission.

Also, she kept on telling me that she knew my "Atypical TN' was not in my head. I kept reminding her that the diagnosis of "Atypical Facial Pain" meant it could be in one's head, but not "Atypical Trigeminal Neuralgia", and I knew it wasn't in my head, but in all over my face!

In order to defend her referring collegue, who diagnosed me with "Atypical Facial Pain", she kept saying, "No, they don't mean it's in your head."

"Well", I told her, "I've read otherwise in so many places, that it can be caused by "psychogenic causes".

She said,"Well, that is not what I've ever been taught it to be". (well, good!)

We had quite an interesting discussion about Atypical TN. I cannot tell it all here. Two hours of dialogue could get to be quite a snooze fest. Heck, maybe no one is reading this anyway, but in case they are, I will spare you the picky details.

She drew blood too, and advised I limited caffeine to 14 oz. a day, keep a pain diary, have a better sleep regimen, and most importantly, as I said, will be ordering that "Trigeminal Protocol MRI".

I sort of liked her, because she actually seemed to know as much as some of us do about "Atypical TN" as the people in the Atypical TN sub-group do!

Best to all to all of my friend here,

Stef

P.S. I will be leaving my medication to my Pain Management Specialist, and my clinical care to the Head and Face Pain Neurology Specialist, whom I spoke of meeting with above. Soooo happy and blessed that I have that choice.

good girl. fingers crossed your MRI (confirm she orders an MRA with contrast too.) gives you some answers.

vesper

Ok, I will call tomorrow and ask them to put that on the order. I think she mentioned that, but I will make sure.

Always helpful and informative. Thanks again, Vesper.

I hope you are well.

Stef

Thanks for the update Stef, sounds like great news that you will continue with the right support and PM assistance. Let us know when your MRI is scheduled. I had my MRI last week but they are looking at the fluid level because my TN is caused by trauma most likely, this will tell us if I can fly anytime soon . . . vacation . . . I hope :slight_smile:

you're welcome. send me the radiology report when you get it; i'll look it over.

vesper

Stef,

That sounds like a really fruitful appointment! It’s great that you have the correct diagnosis and an order for the MRI you need. I’m also glad to hear that she doesn’t consider your pain to be “all in your head”. That should be a no-brainer, but considering what some other folks have been through, it’s a breakthrough of sorts.

I would love to learn more, actually. It’s unusual to come across a doctor who is willing to spend so much time trying to get to the root of the problem and help you as best they can (even if that means leaving the pain management to another specialist). If you have any other details you are able to share, I’d be really interested to hear what she had to say.

Take care,
Chris

My Trigeminal Protocol MRI is scheduled for 5/12/11.

She recommended to me that I 1) keep a pain journal 2) take walks 3) practice better sleep hygiene

I have not been able to find the time to keep to the first two. However, I used to do my chores after my children were in bed and fiance was at work at night.

I have been getting in bed religiously for the past two nights at around 10 p.m., and if the chores have to wait, they just do. I think getting earlier and better sleep has helped me. Well, my pain levels have been down for the past two days. We will see if more sleep continues to help me as well as it has thus far.

I don't know if sleeping is a problem for anyone else, but I have a hard time. So, now I take my Neurontin right before bedtime, and I am sure to sleep shortly afterwards.

I used to catnap during the day. But, now I stay up all day and do all of my sleeping at night. My pain level is down right now.