What people don't see



Othellocop said:

It's funny, while I am in the store at the check-out with my wife when a pain hits. I yelp and bend forward holding my head. The cashier looked on in horror and my wife responded "Dont worry, he does that all the time.

Normally touching pains don't hurt me but breezes......boo. So I've taken to wearing a cloth mask and ski goggles to protect my eyes. Some people ask if I am allergic to this sun or some such. I shake their hand and say no" I've got leprasy and it shouldn't be contagious any more. Banks and jewelry stores look nervous when I walk by. Children naturally look and I lift the mask to show my white beard and say "Shhhh...I'm Santa Claus. Youv'e gotta keep a sense of humor.

Like most of you my faith has carried me. My family sees it and I suppose it shows as a testimony to the blessings during the dark moments.
It is so wonderful to hear how you sense of humor gets you though your day. I know that has worked many times for me!

Betsy,

I am so sorry about your husband and how people treat him. I have experienced that when tragedies hit a family, most people just don't know what to say, so they stay away. It's human nature even though it is hurtful. I'd suggest that your husband initiate contact with old friends and then be open about his disability. It might work to reopen some of his old social contacts. For you, I am so sorry for what you are going through and that you are getting counseling to deal with it. Please just be happy that you still have your husband, although in a different package.

Betsy Carlson said:

Replied earlier, but have been thinking about this thread...is it a blessing or a curse no one can see this. Why I say that is my husband is now in a wheelchair with an amputated leg and wow has it effected the way people interact with him. They get nervous and have had so many say "I don't know what to say to him". He is a big man and was an on site construction manager, big tough guy, grin! That is the few friends that have been there somewhat. I show my Saint Bernards (they are my saving grace, love em, they are our kids), and we see a lot of people just at the shows. During the past year my hubby has been home and able to attend with us I have noticed we don't see many that used to come see us. And sometimes on pity party days I just feel like what a pitiful couple between my TN and all he has going, we are way too young for all this, but then I pick myself back up and just believe God is leading us down a path we may not understand, but truth be said it is our path. Between suddenly becoming caretaker and TN I have found the emotions are unlike anything I have ever felt and I spend time reading, writing and even seeing a therapist once a month just to help me sort out what I am feeling and like was said getting to know me. I have had to accept this is truly our new normal, well I am still in the process of acceptance with it all. Little things can get me, saw a couple walking their dog together, brought me to tears, then TN pain started, so silly, but I miss doing things with my man. We all have our struggles and a different story, I wish none of us had to be here, but since we do I truly feel blessed to have found this group and feel each and everyone one of you is my friend and it helps that lonely feeling!!!

Betsy

Just read so many heart warming and heart retching responses. This is a very common thread between us! I just went through hell trying to up my meds of Gabapentin. Allergic to Tegretol and now realizing allergic somewhat to Gabapentin, only went as high as 800 mg and I thought my head was going to explode, must have upped my high blood pressure and I couldn't think straight at all.

I'm on the mend, back down to 600 mg. For some people that low amount must be a joke. Just can't tolerate these types of meds. Couldn't imagine if I had to live with someone going through this not too mention a job or a "social life". I looked like crap and felt even worse. And I was still in pain. But as of last night and more today I have a clearer head and am functioning better. Prayed a lot and just relaxed and let it be.

Kcall, I have been there. I actually sit in an office chair at the kitchen table. I have a big window that faces out to the back yard and I can see and hear the birds and see my dog when he's out there. A small T.V. is on the table and so is my laptop. A true picture of a single gal who's able to accommodate herself without bothering anyone else. It has it's perks, lol.

I bought some Tiger Balm last night and so far so good. Hard to get used to it's strong lingering odor.

Othellocop, you made a good point......"at least it's not cancer". easier to appreciate when the pain has subsided and when we're not in that "dark" place. I'll try to remember that!!

I've been told to take B12 supplements and I was but I think I need to pick up some more. Thanks for the reminder!

It's so hard to feel JUDGED.....I too had someone not believe me when I said - that I cannot sit in a wooden chair for very long, it effects not only my back but my entire spine up to my, bad neck and then of course into my jaw and face!! I was at another woman's house one day a few years ago having coffee, when all of a sudden she smirked (like she had just caught me in a trap) and said....I knew it, I've been timing you and you have sat in that chair and not gotten up for 30 mins.) I was shocked at how someone could be so cruel and calculating, I thought she had just invited me over for a coffee as a "friend", turns out she had a plan to discredited what I had been saying. My mouth dropped and then I looked her in the eye and said "if you'd been watching, I have been squirming in this chair the whole time. trying to be social and not be rude by getting up in the middle of your conversation." I also pointed out that this chair had a cushion on it. I got up and left and have not seen her since. Not all people are that bad, but she sure opened my eyes at how I might be perceived.

I like the saying "Don't judge me, til you've walked a mile in my shoes", sadly I'm sure I have judged others in my mind but since this all has happened it's made me more compassionate to others. A silver lining.?

Praying for you Shadirah, in this pregnancy. Couldn't imagine that!

Tree69, I too have lost a lot like perhaps some others here as well. When my Mom passed away in 2005, I just couldn't get over it, I've never felt such anguish and she lived to a good old age. I often wonder if that stress pushed my TMJ over the edge and then brought on Fibromyalgia, then the Fiancee left, then the money dwindled, and a bankruptcy thrown in for good measure, then on long term disability after the TN came on board! I've had TMJ for 23 years but it was only in flare ups, since 2005 it seems like it's worked it's way up to everyday and just won't stop...which is always a concern that it will cause a flare up in the TN. If I seem anti social to others I've come to grips with it, I tried for too long to "fit" in, at my own expense. If I have to treat myself like a "little princess" then so be it. If I can't rake my leaves properly or shovel my walk as good as the next guy, then tough is what I say now.

Like you posted Stephanie "What people don't see" is the crux of the problem, if we were in a wheelchair for example, a visible sign of what's what, it would be different. After almost 7 years of the beginning of the end of my so called "social life" I've learned not to care as much as to what other's might think. It still hurts though.

It feels good to know we're not alone in the bad stuff and it feels good to know that we all share a form of appreciation and strength to carry on! We share, we learn from each other! I cry quite a bit these days and they are tears of joy and realization of others in pain, physically and emotionally, when I read what all of you have to say. I had a counselor once tell me that I need to cry, I hate crying. I would refuse to cry!! That was about 2-3 years ago and she couldn't have been more right! Perhaps I have a lot of pent up tears. There's a stage of grief!

My 30 year old son took me to pick up a few groceries last night and it was short but really nice, just me and him. We were chatting about food and cooking and joking around and I said something to him like..."boy you must have had a good Mom" and he said something that broke my heart for a minute...he said "ya.."had"....ah poor guy, I felt like it was the first truthful moment for me and him since all the pain became too much (5 years) So we had a quick chat about it and as a Mom the first thing I said to him was "I'm so sorry, this must have been hard on you the way I've changed", he said "ya", and a funny thing happened, we both smiled and had a quick hug and continued joking around and shopping and chatting, just like we used to do!! :)

Wow!! It was the best thing that could ever have happened. In that moment in a grocery store of all places, he and I finally got things out in the open!! A huge burden lifted that was causing a wedge between us.

Geesh, can you tell that I miss talking, now I go on and on by writing, hee hee hee! Sorry about that!

I'm finding this so therapeutic! Working through the stages of grief! I don't think I have really done that!

Thanks to all of you and I pray for peace for all of us!

Boy, do I understand!!! Just spent a week with the whole extended family for the holidays. My 87 year old dad gets upset when he thinks I'm hurting. My sisters' eyes fill with tears. I hate it!! Unfortunately I'm having series of pain all day, every day. Going to the neurosurgeon on Mon...need the MVD. I'm tried all medication. My neurologist said my next step without surgery would be IV in hospital...not an option for me. I've decided my two options for the pain are self-pity or anger. I'm choosing anger...I've learned to eat through pain and talk through pain. The only way I feel normal...know what you mean about losing friends.

Hey Stephanie,

Very very valid question. I've had TN for over a year now, and I'm on medication (carbamazepine). While my condition is under control with the meds, there are still things I have to explain and there has been a period in the past when I was quite sick and had a very hard time explaining why I couldn't do so many things. The way I see it, the people who matter are those who will understand.. Those who blame you or refuse to understand, well..it's their loss really, not yours. I've had embarrassing situations during professional dinners (unable to talk or eat because of the pain). I've had to cancel countless dates with my former boyfriend - who in spite of all my efforts still did not get what I was going through and blamed me for being boring/a hermit/lazy/unwilling to make efforts etc etc. Every time I go out at night with friends, I still have to refuse alcohol and get stared at like I have two heads (geez, social drinking is a big thing!).

I'm sticking to my guns about my refusal of alcohol at parties (I do believe that carbamazepine and alcohol are not best buds), I am now under good medical supervision and benefit from the support of my awesome doctor who not just prescribes medication, but also listen to my woes and blues, and I have come to realise who my real friends are. I've met an awesome guy, who gets that I get tired easily and fuzzy with medication at times, and tries very hard to be supportive. Although I know he can't understand exactly what I've been through (I mean, you have to live TN to understand it 100%), he makes a huge effort to put himself in my shoes.

I've stopped expecting people to 'get it' 100% and I try not freak when they ask me if my headache is better. So past that, I'm now enjoying a really good social life, and even if I'd love a vodka cranberry from time to time, I've learned to do without!

Wish you all the best - it does get better and there are people who will make the effort for you. Hugs.

Emil2y
I have a great group of true core friends that know if I have to cancel. My one friend I tell lets not make plans just contact me on that day and I’ll let ya know. As much as I would like to date I just don’t know how to even begin that. I’m so happy for you. It’s funny you mention drinking. I have found I just can’t do it anymore either. It cause awful headaches now.
Cheryl I also have children and I know they don’t understand. I have two grandchildren and I do my best to just live through the pain.
I sit here now my face burning because once again in Cincinnati we have a front coming through UGH! I need to go grocery shopping and really just don’t want to. I wish I could exercise through this. I really miss exercise along with my social life.
It’s been nice to hear everyone’s stories.

I also agree that it could be worse and I am very grateful it’s not. I didn’t start this discussion with a pity party in mind. I am so sorry if anyone took it that way.

We all are entitled to a pity party now and then, but I definitely did not take your post that way! And it turned into a great sharing thread, thank you for starting it! And thank you Writergal, very much for your reply! And it is true, he is in a different package and me with TN is a different package too, guess it is a testiment to a strong marriage, for that I am grateful. I remember once at church a lady said you really find out when you retire if you not only love each other but like each other, lol, at this age didn't think things would be as they are, but being together basically 24/7 sure brings that message home! Life sure brings changes! Hoping this year a breeder I have long been awaiting a pup from has a litter, I have fostered some rescue pups recently and hope in addition to that can add a new furry friend, yes, 3 Saint Bernards would seem enough, grin, but think we need just one more :) Wishing everyone a pain free as possible day and gentle hugs to all,

Betsy

Stephanie this isn't a pity party, it's a very valid point. My children thought I'd lost it completely when this started, friends got annoyed with me when I'd cancel plans at the last minute. My husband didn't get it for a long time, but nowadays he's dealing with it as best he can. My friends are ok about things now. It's been a process like any major life change, but we've muddled through somehow.

I was a single mother of 3 for many years, and I used to handle everything alone because you kind of have to. I'm thankful now that I had those years. I've found the strength to keep going in spite of TN, and I think being a single mom was a training ground for this! And yes, things could always be worse and I'm grateful for all our blessings everyday.

Thank you for starting this discussion Stephanie :)

This page has been a blessing.

All these posts... it really is good to know I ( we ) are not alone. I can keep my head around it ( ATN) on an hour to hour basis, but every day I do have to face it. And the other hours of the day I just want to stop and vague out and doze ...and I do. Pain, pain pain... it's very hard to maintain traction in my life. I have to force myself to do almost anything, and so I have lost friends and am a bit of a hermit. But on a day to day basis I try to make the most of what I can. I live alone. Good because I don't have to be 'up' for a partner. Bad because it is very easy just to mooch around at home and be a hermit, with insufficient distraction from my condition. I'm sure a caring partner would add to my life but they'd need to see something in me besides my condition .... I don't want a nurse. I know I am more than my condition. Great to read all our post! Nice to see Othellocop's posts!!! I got a real laugh you funny bugger! Men don't talk about it enough.

I agree Craig, I've lived alone now for 8 years and it does have it's up side. I've always enjoyed my alone time, just didn't think it'd be 24/7. lol

Stephanie I thank you for starting this discussion because according to all the replies you hit the nail on the head!

I know it has helped me and hoping the same for you and others!

:)

Cheryl

Yes it's like that isn't it Cheryl. Alone can be good, but not ALL the time!I bought a kitten last month. This helps. He doesn't seem to care about my angst ridden hours. Just ignores them and does the wicked and destructive things he likes to do. Puts a bit of perspective on things.

I have a very comfortable home, live in a lovely environment, have any thing that is important to me. It makes this life more bearable, and I feel very self contained. I figure why not. On a day to day basis our life is not that much fun, but it's important to make the most of it. Enjoy the good moments we get. This forum is a great place. Like minded and suffering people together. It really helps. I don't care how many times the same themes keep coming up. I learn something everytime, or am reminded that hey there are others out there too. XOX.

This has been very helpful to me. I just hoped I wasn’t the only one that suffered this.
I’m alone and really hope it doesn’t stay that way. I just know right now it wouldn’t be far to even try to date. I do have 4 children and 2 grandchildren which helps fill some voids. I really enjoy my alone time too Craig lol. I don’t have to feel guilty when I hurt and like doing what I want to do when I want lol.
This has been a great site :slight_smile:

Now of only I can figure out how to flip my pic haha

Ha ha I was going to say something about your slanted view of life!

Hahaha I have tried to fix it. Thanks for the morning laugh hahaha

Stephanie the kids and grandies must be great. Probably a bit difficult for you, in as much as you may not always be the parent / grandmom you really know you are, to them. This disorder can stop that or curtail it. But there are there, and when you can be that person for them you do in a way no 'normal' person could because you appreciate it so much more.

Yes doing what you want, when you want, is truly wonderful. It may sound selfish to 'normal' people BUT we know different!!! And can't afford thoughts like that.

I hope the " This has been a great site" means it IS a great site and you will continue on your nightmare journey with all of us. lol.

Stephanie said:

This has been very helpful to me. I just hoped I wasn't the only one that suffered this.
I'm alone and really hope it doesn't stay that way. I just know right now it wouldn't be far to even try to date. I do have 4 children and 2 grandchildren which helps fill some voids. I really enjoy my alone time too Craig lol. I don't have to feel guilty when I hurt and like doing what I want to do when I want lol.
This has been a great site :)

Yep I think you guys are stuck with me

It's so nice to find people with so much in common,besides the pain.

I too am a Gramma. I have 4 of them and I just love to see them and say hi on the phone but I know I couldn't do it all the time. Which sucks but I count my blessings that I have them and it is getting easier as they get older. My dog and cat keep me company and keep me somewhat on a schedule. Whenever I'm up past 11:00 pm both of them come and bug me to come to bed, they sleep in my bedroom with me. I didn't think pets would do that but I guess we are closer than I thought.

I would love a kitten!! There just the cutest ever! Maybe down the road, my cat is not the friendliest to new comers. What is the kitten's name?

Another fitful sleep last night, I got up late, still having coffee and now enjoying life while I look out my window and see the sun shining and it's warming up today! These are the days that I am so glad that I live alone with no one to answer to and no job that I have to rush to!