Some Key Points on Pain Managment Doctors or Clinics

Another discussion came up earlier about pain managment doctors, and I thought I would give my take on this subject. If anyone else has information in this type of medical doctor, comments or questions please feel free to share with the group.

Last spring my GP decided it was time I went to go see a Pain managment doctor as my pain was so hard to control and I did not have a lot of options for treatment. I agreed to go after a lot of grumbling. Why the all the grumbling I was scared and had a false idea what a PM doctor was thanks to an awful ER experience, were I was accused of being an drug seeker and addict. My thoughts were mainly this type of doctor was for addicts (a new way of saying rehab or addiction specialist). These thoughts were so wrong and off base. So here are some points to know about PM.

1.) A pain managment doctors whole goal is to get you out of pain. Preferably without the use of opioids. So you can get back to life as normal.

2.) They will use a variety of treatments to accomplish this with you. This includes medications, surgery, injections, physical therapy, acupuncture, and the use of a therapist who specialize with chronic pain patients. Some of these might be at the PM doctors location or at another location.

3.) How are you able to see a pain managment doctor? Well, according to my PM and a few others you will need to be referred by another doctor, some may take what is considered a “walk in” but with these there are some cautions we’ll go over with later. There are two things why only by referral one being the PM doctor will want all your medical history on your condition, and the other is the problem with people who think these doctors are just suppliers for opioids, and it also may depend on local laws, or even the doctors own business insurance for their practice. So if you would like to see a pain managment doctor you should start by talking with the doctor/s you have now to refer you to one.

4.) Before the appointment you will need to have your medical history of your chronic pain sent off to the prospective PM doc. They will review this info before your appointment. With some PM doctors they will even base the medical records to allow you your first appointment or to be a pain patient at their clinic.

5.) With your first appointment they will go over your illness, about your pain, and may do a physical. You and the doctor during the appointment should begin a plan for your pain managment. It might not be an over night deal on getting the pain better, but it is a plan and a new start to get you better.

6.) Medications
Make sure to have a list of all medications you tried the reaction or result from that medication and what you are taking now. Include any supplements you are taking. I wish I had done that because during consults it is hard to remember what reaction I had to what or what result I had from what medication.

Depending on the medication, the PM doctor may or may not take over and be the prescribing doctor.

Also depending on the medication or the doctor you may need to sign a medication contract. These are usually stating you will not abuse your prescription, will not get more medications from other doctors (2 prescribing doctors for the same medication), or sell your medications, you will get refills depending on the outline of the contract, ECT.

7.) Opioids
If you are thinking a PM doctor hands these out like candy you have the wrong idea and have not been reading this too well.

Opioids are considered by a lot of doctors the last resort. If you have not tried every possible way to control your pain you may be ween off these until it is proven this class of meds works for you.

If you have tried everything possible to control the pain or make the pain go away and opioids work for you. This why it is important for these records to be sent prior to your appointment. Doctors do not like using these types of meds, but will when it is deemed appropriate.

8.) length of first appointment should at least be an hour to two hours long. Anything shorter and I would look for another PM doc. This gives time for you to get to know the doctor and vice verses.

9.) beside all the medical stuff to remember and bring you should also bring someone that has seen you in pain or takes care of you. It might come as surprise but they will ask your person that came with you questions too, like how the pain affects you and your ability to function. How medications affects you as well. It’s good for your treatment plan. Trust me on this one, you want someone with you.

10.) just like all other doctors it may take a few tries to find the right PM doctor for you. That’s okay. Don’t give up and keep looking till you find the right one for you.

11.) under fire
If your not aware of this already the pain community is under fire by the DEA and some other private groups. States such as Florida and Washington especially. PM doctors have been thrown in jail or prison due to the crazy witch hunt that was started by pill mills. So your pain managment doctor will follow all the rules to the t. It is important for them to do this to keep their license to practice and stay out of places like jail. You might like these rules you might not like some of the rule sometimes but to your doctor there important for him to keep his job, and you in the long term to keep your doctor.

12.) Things to look out for

Make sure your doctor has been in business for awhile. Places that pop up over night stay away.

Places that don’t accept insurance, stay away.

Places that seem super cheap and only take cash. Stay away

Places that accept a literal walk in appointment stay away

Places were the doctor only want to hand you a bunch (and I do mean a bunch) of pills stay away

If the clinc is in a strip mall be wary, and you may need to stay away.

Why all the stay always, these places are what most likely are to be pill mills. Where the doctor just prescribes huge amounts of opioids. Later down the road when you really need a PM doctor they may not accept you as patient if they find out you were going to a pill mill.

13.) pain control
Lastly sometimes pain managment can not take the pain all the way away from you. Then your case becomes one of pain level control. It is never a fun idea but I recommend that you think hard about what is the pain level that you can stand to be functional, and what pain level is no longer functional for you. Not saying you will ever be one of those cases but it is always a good idea to be prepared.

I know all of these were quick and to the point but I just wanted to shed a little light on this subject. If anyone else has further input or might have some questions please feel free to share. Hope you all have great day that is pain free:)

Thanks for bringing this up, its of great intrest to me. I only wander how different the set up is in Norway from the U.S but appreciate the info!

How excellent and useful to so many Kari.Thank you!

This is GREAT Kari! Very useful and anyone thinking of going to pain management should take a look at this.

From my own PM experience, I’d like to add:
-Do research on what the PM Dr prescribes. Before taking a medication, especially when it comes to certain opiates, you might want to weigh the benefits vs risks that come with it. Also, everyone is made differently. Make sure you’re not being over medicated by mistake. ie.: 5 mg of medicine X might help my pain and I can function but it will put you to sleep and you might need only 2.5 mg of X. It sounds silly and simple, but you don’t want your body to get used to a higher dose of medication now and then a few months down the road when you need more to help your pain it ends up being a lot more than it would have been. (I’m not great at explaining these things in English, so if someone else understands what I am saying and can say it simpler, please feel free to. I take no offense.)

-Have a VERY GOOD relationship with your PM Dr and his/her assistant. You should be able to call the Dr and get help when things get bad. If the Dr can’t help and you have to go to the ER, make sure PM knows you’re going and tell the ER that you are being treated by PM and give them his name. This is so they know you are in serious pain and not a drug seeker. It’s unfortunate but as a few ER Drs have told me in the past: they can’t see head pain and that’s why drug seekers use that complaint.

Great thread Kari! Very informative! Thanks.

ihold,
Excellent points on this. I want to also to add to your comment about having an a good relationship with your PM doctor. This is a bit of a two way street. The doctor needs to be able to trust you as well, as you need to trust him. That is why you let them know about anything such as, you took an extra pain pill, missed work due to pain, your prescription was written wrong, ect. Basically be truthful to them, it’s in your best interest. Don’t try to do the whole tough it out thing. If something is not working let them know. This how you gain and support a trusted doctor patient relationship.

Also, I totally agree be careful with medication choices weigh them out and with some of these talk with family members before starting them. You do not have take suggested medication and you can say no (politely) to your doctor. This is also the same with any procedure. Weight it out before having something done. You don’t want to end up with something that can not be undone, or is horrible to be weened off of.

Really good points ihold:)

Mimi, Jackie, and mangamel,

Thank you I really hope this will help some members on this subject.

THANKS FOR CARING ENOUGH TO SHARE!!! blessings~~

Just wanted to add my thanks. I'm seeing my neurologist this week to get a referral to a pain management doc. This really helps!

got my first appointment at pain management clinic on wednesday...been waiting for nearly a year it wasnt my idea ...had no idea what to expect...thought it might be just counselling....thanks for enlightening me...will go with more hope in my heart now

Oh yeah! I’m so very happy this help you all out. You have no idea.

Dizzy
Please let us know how your appointment went. I hope you get some relief with you PM doc.

Liliacatnap
Really I am so glad this helps you out:)

Shindig
I have a really hard time with pain control. For me it’s just about controlling the level of pain I’m in. It’s all day 24/7 deal. My neuro actually helped calm me some of my fears about a PM doctor. Though I do hope you get some improvement sooner and don’t need this info. But I am really happy this has helped you out.

went to pain management clinic yesterday...wasnt happy with the time taken to find out about me...10 mins from hello yo goodbye...feel uneasy ahout the procedure recommended...he woukdnt take the time to explain it and told me to look it up and decide in my own time...he called it radiofrequency lesioning but red lawhern assures me that it is known as rf rhizotomy....would love to hear from anyone who has had this procedure...feeling very unsure

Kari said:

Oh yeah! I'm so very happy this help you all out. You have no idea.

Dizzy
Please let us know how your appointment went. I hope you get some relief with you PM doc.

Liliacatnap
Really I am so glad this helps you out:)

Shindig
I have a really hard time with pain control. For me it's just about controlling the level of pain I'm in. It's all day 24/7 deal. My neuro actually helped calm me some of my fears about a PM doctor. Though I do hope you get some improvement sooner and don't need this info. But I am really happy this has helped you out.

Dizzy,
Before you decide can you see another PM doc? I had one where he spent about 5 -10 minutes with and wanted to get in my head. I did feel at ease with him either. Really this a doctor who should spend time with you and answer your questions. Any doc that tells you to look up the recommend treatment on the net is questionable to me.

Opps I ment didn’t feel at ease

I agree with all of these warnings. I have been so blessed with my medical treatment, I can't imagine what some of you go through to get help with TN.

If I may add to the discussion... the following link will take you to a deeply researched resource guide by the American Chronic Pain Association. It's current for 2013. Points of contact are provided as well.

http://www.theacpa.org/uploads/ACPA_Resource_Guide_2013_Final_01131...

ACPA Resource Guide To Chronic Pain Medication & Treatment, 2013 Edition
American Chronic Pain Association
P.O. Box 850
Rocklin, CA 95677
Tel 800-■■■■■■■■
Fax 916-■■■■■■■■
E-mail ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■
Web Site http://www.theacpa.org

^^^^^^^Everyone Should read the resource guide above!!! ^^^^^^^
Just read through it and it covers ALL aspects of chronic pain management.
Very easy to read format and lots of great info
Thanks Red for sharing!

Mimi xx

Thank you Red! You are one again the best:) agreed with Mimi as well.