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I’ve been in pain since july/august, it began with a pressure behind me eye, and gradually became pain on the left side. Atypical facial pain or tn2. MRI showed nothing wrong. Been on carbamazapine for three weeks now, but everytime i think it gets better,t the next day its worse.
Normally, I’m a very positive and hopeful person, but over the past few weeks—especially these last days—that hope has been fading. The pain, the process, trying medications that don’t work, the diagnosis, the future… it’s all so overwhelming. I feel so sad. I tried meditating to accept. I have been reading books to cope with pain…

I’m 38 and i have been through much in my life. I’ve fought many battles. But these past two years, things were finally starting to go well for me. And now, here I am, facing yet another fight. It just doesn’t feel fair.

In 3 weeks i am going to meet my in laws for the first time, they live in Azia (i live in Europe) it is my first time traveling that far. And i feel so scared. Scared i let everyone down because i am in pain. Scared i let my self down. I just don’t know how to cope with this.

I’m sorry for my rant. Just needed to write this down i guess.

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I am so sorry you are struggling and perhaps different medications will help. Different drugs or as my dr said a cocktail - combination could be effective. Try to stay positive and sure your in-laws will be understanding. Safe travels

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Thank you :pray:t3:

Lyrica/generic was my choice instead of the drugs more traditional with tn type 1. Tn2 is different!
This is an incredibly difficult journey. The hardest part for me is that I expected more from those I thought of as empathic. And, on the good days i was too judgmental of me on the bad days. No one really understands. Distraction can be your greatest friend. Sleep, good sleep, is restorative. Eat and live healthy as possible. Do not use alcohol. Zero.

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I was diagnosed with atypical facial pain 7 years ago. I was also in a lot of pain behind my eye and on both sides of my face. I started out taking gabapentin to control the pain and it didn’t work. I switched to lyrica ,which so far, has worked for me. I am able to travel again, and enjoy activities with the pain being controlled. Don’t give up up. You just need to try the right medication.

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Hello, I’m sooo sorry you’re in pain again! My painful journey started in 2019, I’m on 150 and 300 Oxcarbazepine and 150 Pregablin for about 3 years…nothing. It’s right side of my face from a dental procedure. 2019 I was on fire, had radiation done relief for about 13 months of feeling NORMAL and out the blue April 2021 it hit me as a frozen face like I had a face full of Novocaine.

Then I opted for a brain operation since I didn’t want to have radiation so soon again and in the hopes that the “possibility” of being pain free for “up to 5 years” was a vetter option. It was THE WORST decision I’ve made in my life!!! Very little relief (sobbing face) I had to learn how to eat, walk and speak again. I still have a balance issue (walking sideways or walk walking) I sideways walked in the corner of a walk last night!!! I have problems with my speech, I lisp , my memory is for CRAP and my right eye is now smaller than my left eye but not to where my eye specialist is willing to operate.
PLUS my eye always feels like it’s being pulled open and closed at the same time. I say all of this to let you know that WE on here understand. Look at the trip as an adventure, lean into it and you’ll be in a new city. I get tired of explaining what happened but everyone I’ve talked to about greatly sympathize and are accommodating to me. You will be just fine. Keep us posted and safe travels!

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Thank you for your responses, really gives me a little bit of hope! And Lorraine, I’m so sorry to hear that there’s still little improvement for you. I hope better times are ahead for you. <3

I think I can still consider myself somewhat lucky that I’m able to eat, move, and so on. I don’t really have any triggers, other than stress. So the nerves from the upcoming trip aren’t helping, haha.

Today, I had an appointment with the neurologist. She suggested that trying a different medication could be worthwhile. However, since I’m about to travel, she thought it would be better to address this afterward and for now, just stick with the carbamazepine. I ‘wasn’t allowed’ to increase the dose further. I’m currently on 800mg in total.

So, I just have to push through for a little while. It’s really tough. I’m trying to stay positive, but the pain really does take a toll mentally. Phew.

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Thanks for your message!
I get the feeling that you are an exceptional person and I am praying that you will recieve the treatment that will enable you to heal completely
Blessings
Rosa

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Hi Rosa,

Oh not me crying right now :pleading_face: Thank u for this kind message! <3 Really does me good.
Wish all of you all the best :pray:t3:

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I hope you keep in touch with all those who understand and stand bed you in your pain
It helps to know you are not alone

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Baukje,
During the 16 years that I have struggled with basically the same problem you have, I have tried everything possible to alleviate my pain. I have pain now from the procedures as well as the original pain. Drugs I take are not as effective, so I struggle more and more. My advice is to not get any surgical or radiation treatments for your problem. You are young enough that future solutions will come that will help you. Be careful of pouring money into sham natural treatments too. I tried that and lost money on them. Use meditation and mindfulness, and acupuncture, perhaps craniosacral massage. Consider psychological help to root out issues that induce stress. This condition is brought on by stress as well as other factors. Find strength knowing this is an invisible condition, and don’t expect others who are ignorant of such a thing to understand your pain. I highly recommend that you do nothing to hurt your brain! You need it to get well, not corrupt it with knives and radiation.
Not Afraid, Laurel

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It looks like you’ve started a new journey in life which can be a major challenge, adding to other issues in life we all deal with. Don’t be discouraged. I’ve been with TN for 35+ years and I’ve seen and lived it all. You as I’ll find the way to cope with this disease. Best thing you can do is to try to immerse yourself in work or a significant hobby to distract yourself from the pain and worry, even if just temporarily. This will enable you to maintain stability and sanity in your life. Seek refuge in faith, something bigger than and beyond your self for perspective and comfort. And if others don’t understand your pain and plight, maybe they’re not the best people to be with. Don’t despair! We’ve all been where you are right now.

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Baukje, my situation started out like yours, left side, eye area and spread eventually to my teeth. It’s now been a full year dealing with this every single day. I still have bad days and get discouraged, but overall, it’s definitely gotten better now that I have gotten back to doing the things I enjoy and being on the right meds. It took awhile, but for me, low dose gabapentin together with low dose nortriptyline helped the most and I learned about it from this very forum (I was a lurker for months until I joined). If it wasn’t for the wonderful people on here, I would have no idea what to do. Non of the doctors (including Neurologists) knew. I had to find a neurologist that was willing to listen to me and try my suggestions. Also, I find that I have less pain when I’m traveling and seeing new things. It’s a fantastic distraction and I hope that you will find that to be true for yourself as well!

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I’m incredibly grateful for all your responses. I’ve been struggling deeply at times, and reading your messages gives me perspective and hope. Thank you so much!

Over the past 3–4 days, there seems to be some improvement. I hope this means the medication is starting to take effect after more than three weeks. I’ve had moments without pain or pressure, though they’re still interrupted by painful episodes. Overall, it’s manageable.

Thank you for all the tips! I’ve started meditating and have been trying to exercise here and there. So far, it’s been going well as long as I don’t push myself too hard. Besides teaching, i am also a fitness coach, and i do bodybuilding, so not pushing myself is this is definitely a challenge :face_holding_back_tears:.

Once again, thank you. I’m really grateful for this forum!

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Hey Baukje,
My name is Merl I’m a member of the modsupport Team here on Ben’s Friends.
Facial pain or in my case TN or Trigeminal Neuralgia has been one of my many pseudo diagnosis. I say pseudo because it wasn’t a direct diagnosis but rather an elimination process ie If it’s not ‘X’ and not ‘Y’, then it must be TN.

The trigeminal nerve is often called the 5th cranial nerve and is the largest nerve controlling most of the face’s sensory and motion function. Damage anywhere along that nerve tree can affect any part of that nerve tree. Often we may feel pain, for example in the eye, but although the eye feels the pain that is not always the location of the source. Eye pain, behind the eye has been one of my ongoing symptoms.

You’ve been given some really good information by the other members here

But here’s a bit of my story:
I’d been telling medicos for years something was wrong, but it was all minimised as ‘growing pains’, when I was a child and as ‘psych issues’ in my teens because “…we can’t find anything wrong…”, but I knew something wasn’t right. I soon learnt it was safer not to say anything. Add ten yrs and more Dr’s negating my concerns, I’m driving down the road and the lights went out. I couldn’t see. They found something growing in my head. The neurosurgeon went in to get it but it was growing a bit close to brain structures I need to survive, so it was reduced in size rather than completely cut out.

Post surgery things were not good, my symptoms multiplied. The surgeon’s view was ‘I operated, I fixed’ but this was FAR from anything like ‘fixed’. He eventually decided to operate again and again. Each was to deal with an issue, but each has left me with ‘gifts’ (symptoms). I’ve required 6 neurosurgeries so far (and been told I’ll have more to come) and I’m still trying to learn how to manage it all.

The idea that my trigeminal nerve has not been damaged via surgery, multiple times, would be impossible. I’ve trialled every suggest and theory put to me from alternative treatments like acupuncture to medications of every colour and creed. And I’m still hunting for my “key”, Some days I manage OK, some days it all manages me and no two days are ever the same.

For me, I’d STRONGLY recommend eliminating EVERY other option available to you before surgery. I know some medicos can be extremely confident in their surgical abilities and profess to know all about it, but once you go surgical, you can’t go back to ‘before’. Those ‘gifts’ I spoke of haven’t just added up, they’ve multiplied each other.

P.S. Don’t ever be apologising for a rant, EVER. We all need a safe place to let it out and who better to rant to than people who have a lived experience… …Us. When I first became a member here it was all rants :wink: I was annoyed with the world and everybody on it. This is not an easy journey and anybody who ever tells you otherwise, has never been in this situation themselves. We understand because we’ve lived it too.

Merl from the Modsupport Team

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Hi Merl,

Thank you so much for sharing your story and your experiences. It means a lot to me to hear from someone who truly understands what it’s like to navigate such a complex and challenging condition. Your words have been both helpful and comforting.

For the first time in a while, things are starting to feel more manageable on my end, and I’m gradually feeling more optimistic about what lies ahead. It’s inspiring to know that even with the many challenges you’ve faced, you’ve found ways to keep going. It gives me hope for the journey ahead, despite the uncertainties.

I hope you and everyone else in the community are doing well, or at least finding moments of peace along the way. Thank you again for taking the time to reach out—it’s a reminder of the strength and support we can share with one another.

Warm regards <3

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