MVD surgery Experience

Hello. I had MVD surgery December 13, 2015. The surgery worked and I have been pain free since that date. I was first diagnosed with TN in 2008. For me, the first 5 or so years were painful but tolerable. About 3 years ago is when I started talking with my primary care Dr about medications. I took neurontin for a while, with some relief in the beginning, but that eventually started to wane. I tried other alternative therapies such as chiropractic medicine (some short term relief) and acupuncture (probably best choice, but you have to be very consistent and time requirement isn't always easy). When I started a job that offered really great health insurance benefits and gave me the option of going to the healthcare organization of my choice with little out of pocket expense, I hopped on the opportunity. It was perfect timing because the TN had become unbearable. I finally started seeing a neurologist at UCSF in 2014. Initially I did not want surgery. But, in my first visit the Dr told me it was the best option for this condition, especially given my age (33). I did what to try every other mean before considering MVD. I tried the carbazopine which I didnt handle well. And then the oxcarbazopine, which did work for a while but eventually stopped working. I had wanted to try some of the other non-surgical options such as the radio-frequency or gamma-knife but found out these options were really only available for those that can't handle surgery or whose MVD surgery was not successful. Again, given my age (33) and being an otherwise very healthy adult, MVD was my best option.

My neurosurgeon, Dr. Eddie Chang, and his team at UCSF were all so professional and so amazing. As you may know, MVD surgery is somewhat of a gamble. The surgeon does not know exactly what the cause of your TN is until they open you up. The MRI showed that I have big brain/small skull. Which isn't a problem in itself (just an observation really) but I do have TN. Also shown was what looked like the nerve being compressed by an artery. The surgeon explained the surgery fully, also that there is a chance that nothing will be found (no compression), so a rhizotomy (burning of nerve) will be preformed.

I had MVD surgery Dec 13, 2015. Before surgery Dr. Chang asked me to point to the places on my face where I experience pain. Surgery went well, I was told that it took 5-6 hours but it felt to me like no time had passed upon getting put to sleep and waking up (strangest feeling). I felt better than I expected when I awoke, but I was really groggy. Dr. Chang explained that during surgery there wasn't anything found that was "remarkable". They pushed some veins and arteries away from the nerve and did insert teflon as protection but because of this "unremarkable" finding I did get a rhizotomy. I have some permanent facial numbness. What is amazing is that the numbness is exactly where I told the surgeon I was feeling pain. Post-op the numbness was annoying and weird but I am now used to it. No one can tell I have numbness, the rhizotomy does not effect facial muscles or facial expression so movements stay the same. The recovery went well. I spent first two nights in Neuro ICU before going home. I was on leave from work for 6 weeks. The first week is kind of a blur. My husband cared for me and I spent most of the time in bed adding activity slowly. I did have some headache and incision pain but it is NOTHING like TN pain. Looking back I do feel like I needed the entire 6 weeks to recover. When I went back to work the first week was tough and by the end of the day I was worn out. I am happy to report that I am fully recovered and have gone back to all activity I was able to do before surgery (if not more). I am no longer taking medication and facial pain is not longer present. Please feel free to ask me any questions. I really wanted to share my story because while I researched I did not find many positive experiences. I hope this helps someone!

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Awesome Becca! I'm happy for you and wish you a happy life without pain!

That’s amazing! It’s so nice to see a positive story!

Awesome!!! Where you type 1 or 2?

You've helped me! I also have a positive experience to share -- I'll post it later. So glad to hear of your success!

Hi Becca! Congrats on the successful relief of you pain. I am being guided to have an mvd. I’ve actually dealt with mine for 20 years. Meds helped for a bit but they are not a solution. My pain is a rare one as it is in the optamalogic area of the nerve. Could you tell me more about your post surgery? I’m curious if I’d be able to get up, eat, drink, etc. I was thinking I’d need about six weeks off, but curious how you felt during your recovery. Anything you feel comfortable sharing would be most appreciated.

Mine is also partly involving the eye. Although it started as a toothache and progressed to the side of the nose, the worst part was that my eye felt like it was in a clamp. My neurosurgeon performed gamma knife surgery on March 3 and the eye part is just about gone. Still get the zaps in the tooth and the side of the nose. Based on what I've learned here on this site, the pain is likely to return one day. I too am curious about MVD -- I think that's down the pike for me. I reacted badly to all meds except amitrityline, so all the anti-convulsants are not an option.

Rhonda said:

Hi Becca! Congrats on the successful relief of you pain. I am being guided to have an mvd. I've actually dealt with mine for 20 years. Meds helped for a bit but they are not a solution. My pain is a rare one as it is in the optamalogic area of the nerve. Could you tell me more about your post surgery? I'm curious if I'd be able to get up, eat, drink, etc. I was thinking I'd need about six weeks off, but curious how you felt during your recovery. Anything you feel comfortable sharing would be most appreciated.

I'm glad you have had a positive outcome from MVD.

Can I assume you no longer believe your TN was caused by dentistry, bearing in mind your dentist didn't wrap anything around your Trigeminal nerve root? Or alternatively did your MVD procedure correct something that occurred during your dental procedure?

I hate the question on sign up about dental procedures that implies causation by the dentist, yet your MVD helped. This question needs to be removed on sign up, if folk believe a dental procedure caused their TN they will surely mention it on sign up without the leading question.

So glad you are all better…life must be bliss,wonderful,fabulous …
Like Jennifer I want to know if you had Type 1 or 2?
I’m glad you posted such so positive story here ! X

I had type 1. Sorry for late response!!!

Hi Rhonda! My recovery went well, I thought. I don't recall being in a lot of pain. My first two days home after being in ICU for were rough but I took percoset as scheduled and felt better. The pain meds had me pretty out of it the first week. My husband cared for me and brought me meals but I don't think I ate much. I didn't really use the bathroom much because the pain meds constipate you. But I COULD walk and talk. I did a lot of TV watching. I spent most of the 6 weeks at home or around home. I live in San Francisco and don't have or need a car where I live so I didn't drive, plus like I said my husband cared for me. He stayed home with me the first two weeks and when he went back to work I was fine being on my own. Just tired. I remember for the first couple weeks small things exhausted me, like walking to market or going to my mothers house. I think recovery for me was very normal. I hope this helps!!

Hi aiculsamoth! I honestly do not know if my TN was caused by dental pain. Knowing about the condition and why it happens, its easy to say dental work DOE NOT cause TN. However, when the condition first started for me I had been going back and forth to the dental school where I was getting dental work done (I did not have insurance at the time). A filling that I had gotten there kept falling out and had to be replaced at least twice. This is the exact spot where the TN pain started. Of course at the time I did not know it was TN and equated my pain to only the filling. Eventually the pain spread to other areas of my face concluding a TN diagnosis...

. So my honest answer is I don't know and can't say for sure. It seems uncanny that things played out the way they did and it is hard not see a correlation between the two (dental procedure and TN). But I cannot say for sure wither TN was or was not caused by dentistry. As far as what my neuro provider team told me, its not uncommon for dental procedures to trigger TN in some way. The evidence for this though is still unclear.


please see reply above :)
aiculsamoth said:

I'm glad you have had a positive outcome from MVD.

Can I assume you no longer believe your TN was caused by dentistry, bearing in mind your dentist didn't wrap anything around your Trigeminal nerve root? Or alternatively did your MVD procedure correct something that occurred during your dental procedure?

I hate the question on sign up about dental procedures that implies causation by the dentist, yet your MVD helped. This question needs to be removed on sign up, if folk believe a dental procedure caused their TN they will surely mention it on sign up without the leading question.


please see above :)
Eileen said:

So glad you are all better...life must be bliss,wonderful,fabulous .......
Like Jennifer I want to know if you had Type 1 or 2?
I'm glad you posted such so positive story here ! X


Please see above :)
Rhonda said:

Hi Becca! Congrats on the successful relief of you pain. I am being guided to have an mvd. I've actually dealt with mine for 20 years. Meds helped for a bit but they are not a solution. My pain is a rare one as it is in the optamalogic area of the nerve. Could you tell me more about your post surgery? I'm curious if I'd be able to get up, eat, drink, etc. I was thinking I'd need about six weeks off, but curious how you felt during your recovery. Anything you feel comfortable sharing would be most appreciated.

please see above :)

Jennifer Muir said:

Awesome!!! Where you type 1 or 2?

Congratulations Becca on your successful MVD surgery. I had a question on your numbness. How much of your face is numb? It appears that this doesn't bother you. I agree that the TN pain is certainly worse than the numbness. You are young so I am glad you have your life back. I am 62 yrs old and have had TN for 6 years. I am using meds and for the most part the pain is controlled. The side effects are the problem: fatigue and balance are the worst side effects. Thanks for sharing your sucess story with us. This gives us hope. God bless you. Jim

After suffering with ER visits and NS that knew nothing from June 2015-september 2015 I found my saving grace. But between September and December the meds (tegretol and I cant remember the other) were giving such side effects I couldn't function/work so I asked for the surgery because i was at 17 pills a day for the pain. So 12/10/15 I went in for the MVD. Sleeping was really tough and I felt so much pressure on the left side of my head I can only explain it as if you’re getting your head squeezed in a vice and even that is putting it lightly. I would literally hold my head with my hand to lift it up and down because my head felt so heavy my neck felt too weak to support it. I was discharged a couple days later.

On the 14th I woke up I was having trouble breathing, and when I say trouble I mean that I could barely catch my breath and they were too and far between. My aunt came downstairs and kept an eye on me while I waited for my mom to get home and take me to the ER.

They think I was throwing a fever because of how clammy I was, CT and MRI’s all came back fine so they sent me home and I followed up with my NS the next day. He was concerned but nothing was conclusive and obviously the procedure will do things to your body that are normal. The next week was really tough to get through, pain meds were my friend and sleep was an ally. But the head pressure would not go away. Again, how am I supposed to know what is normal for something like this!

6 days later on the night of the 20th my head was worse than ever so I went to lie down. Around 8 I awake with my head feeling “depressurized” but something didn’t feel right. I sat up and there was a clear fluid mixed with blood all over my head, body, pillows and sheets. I yelled for my mom and we decided to go to the ER. I held a cloth to my head because this fluid was just pouring out of the bottom of my incision. Before I could leave the house I knew I needed help so my cousin upstairs helped me walk outside. I made it to the driveway and collapsed to the ground in his arms. I don’t know how long I was out but when I woke up there was an ambulance coming up the road and off I went to the ER. Upon reaching the ER I started to kind of level out but was exhausted beyond exhausted. They started fluids and eventually I went for a CT but they said nothing was showing on the scan. Meanwhile, my mother and the ER doctors were conversing with my NS but he could only do so much over the phone. I was discharged and went home to lie down again because the leaking had stopped. That next morning I went to my NS for my regular scheduled appointment to get the stitches out as it had been 10 days since surgery. At this point I still didn’t know what had come out of my head the previous night. He started to take out the stitches and he noticed more fluid coming out and that’s when my heart sank and he said it was cerebral spinal fluid of CSF. He said I would need some stitched put back in and I would have to wait for his assistant to get there. I had 3 stitched put back in and my NS said that is the leak didn’t stop we would have to talk surgery on the following Monday. I crossed my fingers and prayed because I didn’t want surgery again.

Now Christmas was approaching and I still was not myself. The morning of Christmas Eve I awoke to fluid all over me again. I knew this wasn’t good and called my NS. He told me to go meet up with his assistant because he was in surgery. I made it to and David came to see me. At this point the cloth was covered, my incision was raw and I was very upset. He said he would call my NS and be right back. I went to the hospital expecting a couple stitches but when he came back in he said that after their discussion that I needed to forgo my holiday plans and go into surgery that morning because the sugar in the CSF is a Petri dish for bacteria and I was running a risk of meningitis or other infections that could kill me with it being by the brain and spine.

Crying is an understatement because I was scared, upset, worried and was not expecting this. They wanted me in surgery so fast that they almost used an ambulance to get me to the other hospital quickly. \\I was in surgery for another 3-4 hours. They decided to change the anesthesia to the iv instead of the mask and give me nausea meds out of the gate because he thought that when I was getting sick in the ICU the first time it forced fluid between my skull and the durra. Also heavy duty antibiotics because he thought a small infection was starting by the time he got in there. Every 2 hours I was givin IV antibiotics and I had the leg cuffs on again which made it difficult to sleep.

It was amazing the difference form the first surgery where I pretty much couldn’t function. Second time, Christmas morning let me remind you, I was feeling amazing and my mother was shocked when she walked in and I was sitting up in bed like nothing happened. My doctor had said I was part of a 2% that could have developed a CSF leak. Their quickness literally saved my life because infection could have killed me and quickly. I spent 2 nights in the hospital and went home on the 26th and this time a was feeling good; I went home on antibiotics and life was good considering I had my head opened up again. I was still pain free at this point and I felt better physically. I was on antibiotics and follow-ups with my NS. I saw him on the 29th and that was my last day on the antibiotics. By the 2nd of the new year I wasn’t feeling right again, almost like I had the flu, throat and all. I went to my PCP on the 4th after trying over the counter meds and she was concerned because I was throwing a fever along with all the symptoms so they called my NS and they scheduled a CT with contrast for the 13th, meanwhile it was a waiting game. After the CT I went over to my NS's office and he said it was a slim, once again 2% chance that I could be having a reaction to the medical Teflon; that my body was considering it a foreign object and the problems up to this point were masking it. He put me on a steroid called dexamethsone 2mg 3x’s a day. He said if this showed any improvement it would prove a diagnosis of rejection.

Within a couple hours I was feeling more alert again and like I wasn’t a walking zombie. I have been on the meds for 8 days and although it has helped with some things they make me really hungry, swollen and irritable but they are steroids to force my body to accept the Teflon so I have no choice. The pain has started to come back in my left cheek and around the left ear so when I see my NS on the 25th I’m expecting to go back on tegretol again.

As of today I would say I would do this surgery again because at least I have gotten some life back and I can return to work next week even if it is light duty. Physically I am still tired and I get lightheaded every now and again, sore, weak and irritable but I say it’s because of the medication. The incision is healing well even though there is a lot of pain/pressure on it at times but nothing I can’t handle with my ice pack. My throat still hurts from surgery and my chest feels heavy but once again nothing compared to before surgery.

All I can say is to each their own. I was taking so many pills a day that caused me to miss work, life, family and friends. The pain was unbearable and at that point I was not living just existing. Some people still think I’m crazy for going to aggressive against this disease but Trigeminal Neuralgia takes your life from you and leaves nothing but a shell behind. For me it was an easy decision because I am too young to basically stop living. This whole experience was scary from the start, risks were great and I had a rough time and still am in certain ways but being able to walk outside and take the sun upon my face and realize I get to live again makes it all worth it.

The pain is so intense right now I don't know where to turn and I know this is a long story but I really need help....please someone help me!!!!!!!!!

This is wonderful news, especially as I more seriously consider the surgery. I'm happy to hear your recovery went smoothly and I hope you remain pain-free!

Hi James! My numbness is on the right side, mostly in my teeth and gums. Right side both upper and lower gums have numbness. Also my lips are numb, mostly on the right side. and above my right lip. Some numbness on my right cheek but that stops before the orbital bone. I still have sensation in those spots it just feels like when you go to the dentist and the Novocaine starts wearing off. I do have a couple strange sensations that I have noticed. After eating I feel a need to floss my teeth (I'm sure this makes my dentist happy). Also, after eating I always feel like my lips are dry and I need to apply lip balm (even though lips are not dry) so I always carry lip balm with me now. These are not concerns, just observations and they don't bother me. Please keep me posted on if you decide to do MVD or not.


James M. Radford said:

Congratulations Becca on your successful MVD surgery. I had a question on your numbness. How much of your face is numb? It appears that this doesn't bother you. I agree that the TN pain is certainly worse than the numbness. You are young so I am glad you have your life back. I am 62 yrs old and have had TN for 6 years. I am using meds and for the most part the pain is controlled. The side effects are the problem: fatigue and balance are the worst side effects. Thanks for sharing your sucess story with us. This gives us hope. God bless you. Jim


Im very sorry to hear that you had such an awful experience. We never can predict how our bodies will react to surgery of any kind, can we? am happy to hear you believe your surgery was successful and worth it. If you still need help I would suggest getting second and third opinions. I am not an MD and cannot advise. I am really only hear to share my story.
Ksears said:

After suffering with ER visits and NS that knew nothing from June 2015-september 2015 I found my saving grace. But between September and December the meds (tegretol and I cant remember the other) were giving such side effects I couldn't function/work so I asked for the surgery because i was at 17 pills a day for the pain. So 12/10/15 I went in for the MVD. Sleeping was really tough and I felt so much pressure on the left side of my head I can only explain it as if you’re getting your head squeezed in a vice and even that is putting it lightly. I would literally hold my head with my hand to lift it up and down because my head felt so heavy my neck felt too weak to support it. I was discharged a couple days later.

On the 14th I woke up I was having trouble breathing, and when I say trouble I mean that I could barely catch my breath and they were too and far between. My aunt came downstairs and kept an eye on me while I waited for my mom to get home and take me to the ER.

They think I was throwing a fever because of how clammy I was, CT and MRI’s all came back fine so they sent me home and I followed up with my NS the next day. He was concerned but nothing was conclusive and obviously the procedure will do things to your body that are normal. The next week was really tough to get through, pain meds were my friend and sleep was an ally. But the head pressure would not go away. Again, how am I supposed to know what is normal for something like this!

6 days later on the night of the 20th my head was worse than ever so I went to lie down. Around 8 I awake with my head feeling “depressurized” but something didn’t feel right. I sat up and there was a clear fluid mixed with blood all over my head, body, pillows and sheets. I yelled for my mom and we decided to go to the ER. I held a cloth to my head because this fluid was just pouring out of the bottom of my incision. Before I could leave the house I knew I needed help so my cousin upstairs helped me walk outside. I made it to the driveway and collapsed to the ground in his arms. I don’t know how long I was out but when I woke up there was an ambulance coming up the road and off I went to the ER. Upon reaching the ER I started to kind of level out but was exhausted beyond exhausted. They started fluids and eventually I went for a CT but they said nothing was showing on the scan. Meanwhile, my mother and the ER doctors were conversing with my NS but he could only do so much over the phone. I was discharged and went home to lie down again because the leaking had stopped. That next morning I went to my NS for my regular scheduled appointment to get the stitches out as it had been 10 days since surgery. At this point I still didn’t know what had come out of my head the previous night. He started to take out the stitches and he noticed more fluid coming out and that’s when my heart sank and he said it was cerebral spinal fluid of CSF. He said I would need some stitched put back in and I would have to wait for his assistant to get there. I had 3 stitched put back in and my NS said that is the leak didn’t stop we would have to talk surgery on the following Monday. I crossed my fingers and prayed because I didn’t want surgery again.

Now Christmas was approaching and I still was not myself. The morning of Christmas Eve I awoke to fluid all over me again. I knew this wasn’t good and called my NS. He told me to go meet up with his assistant because he was in surgery. I made it to and David came to see me. At this point the cloth was covered, my incision was raw and I was very upset. He said he would call my NS and be right back. I went to the hospital expecting a couple stitches but when he came back in he said that after their discussion that I needed to forgo my holiday plans and go into surgery that morning because the sugar in the CSF is a Petri dish for bacteria and I was running a risk of meningitis or other infections that could kill me with it being by the brain and spine.

Crying is an understatement because I was scared, upset, worried and was not expecting this. They wanted me in surgery so fast that they almost used an ambulance to get me to the other hospital quickly. \\I was in surgery for another 3-4 hours. They decided to change the anesthesia to the iv instead of the mask and give me nausea meds out of the gate because he thought that when I was getting sick in the ICU the first time it forced fluid between my skull and the durra. Also heavy duty antibiotics because he thought a small infection was starting by the time he got in there. Every 2 hours I was givin IV antibiotics and I had the leg cuffs on again which made it difficult to sleep.

It was amazing the difference form the first surgery where I pretty much couldn’t function. Second time, Christmas morning let me remind you, I was feeling amazing and my mother was shocked when she walked in and I was sitting up in bed like nothing happened. My doctor had said I was part of a 2% that could have developed a CSF leak. Their quickness literally saved my life because infection could have killed me and quickly. I spent 2 nights in the hospital and went home on the 26th and this time a was feeling good; I went home on antibiotics and life was good considering I had my head opened up again. I was still pain free at this point and I felt better physically. I was on antibiotics and follow-ups with my NS. I saw him on the 29th and that was my last day on the antibiotics. By the 2nd of the new year I wasn’t feeling right again, almost like I had the flu, throat and all. I went to my PCP on the 4th after trying over the counter meds and she was concerned because I was throwing a fever along with all the symptoms so they called my NS and they scheduled a CT with contrast for the 13th, meanwhile it was a waiting game. After the CT I went over to my NS's office and he said it was a slim, once again 2% chance that I could be having a reaction to the medical Teflon; that my body was considering it a foreign object and the problems up to this point were masking it. He put me on a steroid called dexamethsone 2mg 3x’s a day. He said if this showed any improvement it would prove a diagnosis of rejection.

Within a couple hours I was feeling more alert again and like I wasn’t a walking zombie. I have been on the meds for 8 days and although it has helped with some things they make me really hungry, swollen and irritable but they are steroids to force my body to accept the Teflon so I have no choice. The pain has started to come back in my left cheek and around the left ear so when I see my NS on the 25th I’m expecting to go back on tegretol again.

As of today I would say I would do this surgery again because at least I have gotten some life back and I can return to work next week even if it is light duty. Physically I am still tired and I get lightheaded every now and again, sore, weak and irritable but I say it’s because of the medication. The incision is healing well even though there is a lot of pain/pressure on it at times but nothing I can’t handle with my ice pack. My throat still hurts from surgery and my chest feels heavy but once again nothing compared to before surgery.

All I can say is to each their own. I was taking so many pills a day that caused me to miss work, life, family and friends. The pain was unbearable and at that point I was not living just existing. Some people still think I’m crazy for going to aggressive against this disease but Trigeminal Neuralgia takes your life from you and leaves nothing but a shell behind. For me it was an easy decision because I am too young to basically stop living. This whole experience was scary from the start, risks were great and I had a rough time and still am in certain ways but being able to walk outside and take the sun upon my face and realize I get to live again makes it all worth it.

The pain is so intense right now I don't know where to turn and I know this is a long story but I really need help....please someone help me!!!!!!!!!