Massaging opposite side of face

Has anyone tried this?


Basically find the tender spot on the opposite side and massage.
Probably at least as good as any of the non opiate drugs they have me on.
And won’t screw up my liver and kidneys.

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Did you try it, and did it work for you, Ellen?

My head is in so much pain and I am crying so much that I do not know whether it works or not.
The lamotrogine is causing headaches all on my bad side,but all over the front right side of my head(I do not normally get headaches-maybe 5 in 60 years of living)so I attribute to the new drug.
The crying is so bad-the left side of my face is hurting ,too.
So I would not be a good test case.
But I wanted to see if anyone else has seen this and tried it.

Headache is one of the most common side effects of lamictal at a non-theraputic dose. You can take something for the headache as you titrate up on lamictal, headaches usually stop once you get into 100mg range. Actually once you get to a therapeutic dose side effects tend to stop. The trick is getting there.

How about wanting to walk in front of a car?
Should I wait.?
Sorry
That is me today.
Crying and being as much a B as possible today.
Telemarketers are hanging up cause I am sobbing at them.
They are used to the yelling-a crying woman is another story.
Glad it works for others.
Not for me.Canada is going to be giving free heroin to addicts soon.Might
just get in line.(Joking about waiting in line,for now)

With all due respect, Dr Eric Berg is not a TN specialist, or even a neurologist. If it was that easy to stop TN someone would have spotted the connection by now. After all, we all lean our faces in our hands, or scratch our cheeks, or prod our noses, or push our temples, or brush our teeth, or rub our eyes, or any one of a thousand ways we might accidentally apply pressure to our faces and thus discover that pushing pressure points worked.

It’s telling that he says it’s probably the most effective thing you’ll have tried so far. No, Dr Berg, it isn’t. Anti-convulsants will beat it hands down any day of the week and twice on Tuesdays. You can tell he’s never had, and possibly never even seen, TN first-hand or he wouldn’t be talking such rubbish.

My TN is active currently. I have mine in my mouth. When I push as hard as I can on the opposite side, either inside or outside my mouth, it is not “much more painful”, to paraphrase, and it certainly isn’t more painful than the TN side. Plus it makes zero difference to the TN pain. If it worked I could swig down a glass of cold water right now with no ill-effect , but I can tell you just sucking air into my mouth, that isn’t happening.

Berg isn’t quite a quack but he comes perilously close at times - this would be one of those times.

I’ll just add a note on Lamotrigine too, while I’m here. I took it briefly and it gave me a six week migraine. The more I took, the worse the migraine got, and it was SEVERE, the full monty: nausea, travel sickness (walking!), light sensitivity, smell sensitivity, noise sensitivity - the lot. Going up in dose was impossible for me, and it took 3 weeks to stop having headaches after I stopped the drug, so despite it being used to treat migraine, it can cause them, and does more often than neurologists know - or care to know!

Thank You for your reviews
I really appreciate them.
If you could post your review on Dr,Berg’s site or write something similar
it might help someone else.Me,my face is so weird that it would just not be
right.
And thank you so much for the lamotrigine review.
I had bizarre head aches for two days after stopping and I never have
headache-so I am wondering whether the new forms the new doctor has that
refer to headaches are for people to write their reactions down.
Thanks
Hoping something works for you.

Dr. Berg is a chiropractor. We have a policy here about negative reviews of medical practitioners, but being skeptical of his claim to expertise isn’t exactly a negative review, is it?

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Lamotrigine is anti seizure and is commonly used as a daily med to help with migraine. The trick is all meds in that category can cause headaches because they work directly on your brain chemistry. The nice thing is that the majority of people adjust, but then again its also a population used to headaches already so I’m sure tolerance is different. I’m sorry it didn’t work for you, be aware that whole category can cause headache.

You’re welcome, Ellen. Best of luck in finding something that works for you - without undue side effects!

Thanks
How are you doing now?
I keep running into you while I am reviewing all the old posts I missed.
I hope you are going GREAT

No, Mod, it’s just a ‘review’ of this particular video. I’ve seen some of his on diet and carbohydrate/diabetes issues and they are far more sound. He belongs to the ‘everything is because of your malfunctioning…’ school of doctoring - in his case it’s adrenals. He even manages to make a connection between adrenals and TN here in this video. I’m afraid that is as valid as saying everything that’s wrong with you is because of your pancreas or your gallbladder - you just can’t claim that, but it’s good for selling to sick people who are desperate to hear there is a definitive (if vague) single cause for what’s wrong with them. And TN patients are nothing if not desperate!

I’m as in the dark as the next person as to what is causing, or caused, my TN, but I am pretty sure it’s nothing to with my adrenals!

Sad thing is ,one of my closest friends asked me if it could be my adrenal glands,shortly after this bizarre nightmare started.Since I have started taking all the drugs she is not interested in me.i guess I don’t fit her life style.

Thanks, Azurelle, and it’s interesting that you say they can cause headache. The neurologist that prescribed them to me was a migraine specialist, from Argentina no less, and when I told her they were apparently causing migraines she said, and I quote “That’s very rare. They are used to treat migraines.” So, apparently it’s not that common knowledge; she was certainly surprised! She was exceptionally put out about it and blamed me (in the shape of putting on my notes that I was very prone to migraines) and that curse has followed me to every doctor since.

Whereas I am prone to migraines they are very manageable, EXCEPT where drugs are concerned. Just about every drug under the sun seems to cause increased susceptibility to migraine in me. And in my case it wasn’t a question of tolerance, or time for the side effects to subside. I got so sick on them that just moving about was virtually impossible. When I say a six week migraine, I actually mean that - one continuous migraine that never stopped. I can remember two separate occasions during it: once, on the day of my hospital visit to see her, having to stop in the shade of some trees and wait until I could move again because the light seemed so bright it was physically painful, like it was directly plugged into my brain/gut. Sunlight was effectively roiling in my gut so that I had vomit in my mouth. The second time was after venturing out one day and coming home and sitting on the sofa and the pain getting so bad (despite painkillers) that I couldn’t even call out for help. I sat there for something like two hours before my partner came through and I could ask him to help me to the toilet and get me a drink! I had peppermint oil on my forehead, a hot water bottle on the back of my neck and was taking OTC painkillers every day - all to no joy.

There comes a time when you are trying a drug you have to admit defeat, but I didn’t. She pulled me off it, and the migraine lasted another three weeks before I started getting a few hours a day before the headache would start up again. And even with that, it felt like heaven!

Getting along, Ellen. I’m still trying anti-depressants (Amitriptyline & Nortryptiline) but so far not much pain relief. I’m soldiering on though. Eventually I will find a drug that works - or die tryin’!

P.S. And, of course, they have made me slightly more susceptible to headaches!

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I think the biggest problem with the meds we use is that, for the most part, they aren’t for our condition in the first place! Basically everything we use is off label which means it’s never been double blind studied in a controlled way. We’re doing everything on the fly and by word of mouth. It’s not surprising we often know more than our doctors.

Meds also fall in and out of favor and use four no good medical reasons. Take depakote. Its the oldest anti seizure med out there and was used for headaches back in the 50s. Then it fell out of favor. I suffered with migraines for 7 or 8 years in the 80s and 90s and had several doctors tell me there was nothing. I moved. I went to a new doc who was very old, had graduated med school in the early 50s, he immediately put me on depakote,the migraines immediately improved by 70%. He even told me he didn’t understand why they had stopped teaching/using that category of med for migraine. Fast forward another 15 years and everyone is again using the category for migraines!

Luckily we now have forums like this that will help keep treatment options alive.

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Hi
So true
I hope you get to keep that doctor for a long,long time.
Or you find a new one who will prescribe what works for you.

no but I will my daughter is a massage therapist in training