Thank-you for letting me know about the compounding pharmacies. Lloyd Center pharmacy has moved out of the mall, but they are still around. I am going to file away this great information in case someone asks.
Not Again said:
There are other compounding pharmacies in and around Portland. Besides the one in the Lloyd Center, there is Community Compounding, 11030 SW Capitol Highway, Portland; Pacific Compounds Pharmacy, LLC, 327 SE 3rd Ave in Hillsboro; and The Beaverton Pharmacy, 12250 SW Canyon Rd in Beaverton OR97005.
We have only one compounding pharmacy in al of Portland, Oregon. Some people I know have mentioned mail order compounding pharmacies.
Hello, I am very pleased to read about your particular combination of meds in your compound cream---and the compound cream itself. I have been thru so much with TN--as many have---10 years worth of surgeries, treatments, meds, etc.--to include really poor medical care. Story not necessary at this point. This compound cream really intrigues me!!! I used Lidoderm patches with some favorable results so---I feel this cream might be somewhat of an answer for me. I want to approach my neurologist with all information possible. I have a compound pharmacy local, but since I have such bad experiences with medical care in my state, I am thinking I might want to get this compound cream out of state. You seem very pleased with your cream. I am assuming you like the medium the medications are compounded in---meaning it is very spreadable on your face? Ok---so I am replying to Ashbet in particular---you said you get your cream from Institutional Pharmacies---do you have the phone number, and maybe address? Of course, I am open to others on the forum who have found a nice creamy compound cream--I can certainly get my neurologist to order any medications I may need. I know some folks mentioned cost---my insurance will pay--up to $1500. Oh--do you know the typical amount the neurologist usually orders for you? My neurologist is great---but a bit in the dark about some of this stuff so going for appointment in two weeks and want to go prepared. Hope you see this--don't know how to reach specific folks. Thanks ahead of time for all information. Hope I did this correctly. New to writing on forums.
Ashbet said:
This is a cream which my neuro prescribed -- I get rigid locked-up muscles in my neck/trapezius area when the pain is bad, so the combination of muscle relaxers and nerve agents helps, some.
It's not a miracle, but it at least helps me sleep when I'm in pain (ketamine will KNOCK YOU OUT, be careful not to overdo it and apply more than prescribed), and it helps with my peripheral neuropathy and actually does a lot for my hands/feet.
I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (which makes me more prone to neuralgia/neuropathy in the first place), and I'm lidocaine-insensitive because of EDS (whichever mutation causes my type also seems to create a far higher prevalence of lidocaine insensitivity than in the normal population), which is why I'm using bupivicaine (Marcaine) as the last ingredient. Most people would use lidocaine instead -- but it's worth trying a different formulation if the first one you try isn't effective.
Mine is from "Institutional Pharmacy Solutions" -- your doctor calls in the script and they mail it to you. For me, one bottle lasts a couple of months.
The phone number for Institutional Pharmacy Solutions is 855-297-9799, and they're in California.
I recommend getting my formulation, with bupivicaine instead of lidocaine -- if Lidoderm works for you, you probably don't have a lidocaine insensitivity, like I do . . . but the formulation with lidocaine is very grainy, whereas the bupivicaine formula is smoother and more creamy. I don't have a problem with putting it on my face, and I normally have sensitive, irritable skin.
My monthly amount is 240 grams -- the amount I use varies, and sometimes it lasts me a bit longer. I put it on my face, neck, and upper back (trapezius and scapula area), because muscle knots in those areas can contribute to TN pain for me.
DO NOT get it in your eyes -- wash your hands with soap afterward, and don't put it right next to the eye (the temple area is fine.) It will sting like crazy if you do!
Currently, I pay $45/mo (my copay for name-brand prescription drugs from my insurance company.) At one point, insurance didn't want to pay, and IPS said that it would be something like $158/mo. They were willing to work with me, though, and were willing to send half-bottles if that was all I could afford.
(BTW, you don't have to get the giant 240-gram bottle -- they have 120-gram bottles, which I think are ideal, and they have a "travel" size, which is 1/4 the size of the 240-gram bottle. I prefer the 120-gram bottles, because that way I can keep one next to my bed and one next to my boyfriend's bed, so I'm never too far away from it if I need it. They'll either send you one 240-gram bottle, two 120-gram bottles, or four 60-gram bottles, if you have a prescription for 240 grams -- you can ask for what size you prefer.)
Hope this helps! <3
PetMommy said:
Ok---so I am replying to Ashbet in particular---you said you get your cream from Institutional Pharmacies---do you have the phone number, and maybe address? Of course, I am open to others on the forum who have found a nice creamy compound cream--I can certainly get my neurologist to order any medications I may need. I know some folks mentioned cost---my insurance will pay--up to $1500. Oh--do you know the typical amount the neurologist usually orders for you? My neurologist is great---but a bit in the dark about some of this stuff so going for appointment in two weeks and want to go prepared. Hope you see this--don't know how to reach specific folks. Thanks ahead of time for all information. Hope I did this correctly. New to writing on forums.
Ashbet said:
This is a cream which my neuro prescribed -- I get rigid locked-up muscles in my neck/trapezius area when the pain is bad, so the combination of muscle relaxers and nerve agents helps, some.
PetMommy, you can email me direct if you wish. jcworks@bellsouth.net. The compounding pharmacy I use is The Compounding Shoppe, 3349 Independence Drive, Birmingham, AL 35209. Ph: 205-870-3150. It comes in a container much like men's shaving cream. You pump out just the amount you need. The pharmacist said to first put it behind the ear on the boney part right behind the earlobe, extend it down a little to just below the earlobe; and to put on the face in front of the ear lobe and extend down a little on the jaw bone. I just spread mine on that area he said (mostly). Sometimes I'll put it on the area that actually hurts too. The directions say its ok to do that. Its called Custom Rx Gel. It is a mix of GABA/AMITRIP/LIDO/KETO/FLURBI/BACLO 6/4/5/4/10/2% IN LIPODE. Whatever all that means. It cost me $30 and they FedEx it to you free. It works for me, but I'm on meds already. But it does help when it breaks through. It helps the most on the neuropathy as that is what most of my issues are....along with some TN left over from previous treatments.
PetMommy said:
Hello, I am very pleased to read about your particular combination of meds in your compound cream---and the compound cream itself. I have been thru so much with TN--as many have---10 years worth of surgeries, treatments, meds, etc.--to include really poor medical care. Story not necessary at this point. This compound cream really intrigues me!!! I used Lidoderm patches with some favorable results so---I feel this cream might be somewhat of an answer for me. I want to approach my neurologist with all information possible. I have a compound pharmacy local, but since I have such bad experiences with medical care in my state, I am thinking I might want to get this compound cream out of state. You seem very pleased with your cream. I am assuming you like the medium the medications are compounded in---meaning it is very spreadable on your face? Ok---so I am replying to Ashbet in particular---you said you get your cream from Institutional Pharmacies---do you have the phone number, and maybe address? Of course, I am open to others on the forum who have found a nice creamy compound cream--I can certainly get my neurologist to order any medications I may need. I know some folks mentioned cost---my insurance will pay--up to $1500. Oh--do you know the typical amount the neurologist usually orders for you? My neurologist is great---but a bit in the dark about some of this stuff so going for appointment in two weeks and want to go prepared. Hope you see this--don't know how to reach specific folks. Thanks ahead of time for all information. Hope I did this correctly. New to writing on forums.
Ashbet said:
This is a cream which my neuro prescribed -- I get rigid locked-up muscles in my neck/trapezius area when the pain is bad, so the combination of muscle relaxers and nerve agents helps, some.
It's not a miracle, but it at least helps me sleep when I'm in pain (ketamine will KNOCK YOU OUT, be careful not to overdo it and apply more than prescribed), and it helps with my peripheral neuropathy and actually does a lot for my hands/feet.
I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (which makes me more prone to neuralgia/neuropathy in the first place), and I'm lidocaine-insensitive because of EDS (whichever mutation causes my type also seems to create a far higher prevalence of lidocaine insensitivity than in the normal population), which is why I'm using bupivicaine (Marcaine) as the last ingredient. Most people would use lidocaine instead -- but it's worth trying a different formulation if the first one you try isn't effective.
Mine is from "Institutional Pharmacy Solutions" -- your doctor calls in the script and they mail it to you. For me, one bottle lasts a couple of months.
I'm curous Jimmy Works, if you get any side effects at all from the cream such as fatigue, etc... Jimmy Works said:
PetMommy, you can email me direct if you wish. jcworks@bellsouth.net. The compounding pharmacy I use is The Compounding Shoppe, 3349 Independence Drive, Birmingham, AL 35209. Ph: 205-870-3150. It comes in a container much like men's shaving cream. You pump out just the amount you need. The pharmacist said to first put it behind the ear on the boney part right behind the earlobe, extend it down a little to just below the earlobe; and to put on the face in front of the ear lobe and extend down a little on the jaw bone. I just spread mine on that area he said (mostly). Sometimes I'll put it on the area that actually hurts too. The directions say its ok to do that. Its called Custom Rx Gel. It is a mix of GABA/AMITRIP/LIDO/KETO/FLURBI/BACLO 6/4/5/4/10/2% IN LIPODE. Whatever all that means. It cost me $30 and they FedEx it to you free. It works for me, but I'm on meds already. But it does help when it breaks through. It helps the most on the neuropathy as that is what most of my issues are....along with some TN left over from previous treatments.
PetMommy said:
Hello, I am very pleased to read about your particular combination of meds in your compound cream---and the compound cream itself. I have been thru so much with TN--as many have---10 years worth of surgeries, treatments, meds, etc.--to include really poor medical care. Story not necessary at this point. This compound cream really intrigues me!!! I used Lidoderm patches with some favorable results so---I feel this cream might be somewhat of an answer for me. I want to approach my neurologist with all information possible. I have a compound pharmacy local, but since I have such bad experiences with medical care in my state, I am thinking I might want to get this compound cream out of state. You seem very pleased with your cream. I am assuming you like the medium the medications are compounded in---meaning it is very spreadable on your face? Ok---so I am replying to Ashbet in particular---you said you get your cream from Institutional Pharmacies---do you have the phone number, and maybe address? Of course, I am open to others on the forum who have found a nice creamy compound cream--I can certainly get my neurologist to order any medications I may need. I know some folks mentioned cost---my insurance will pay--up to $1500. Oh--do you know the typical amount the neurologist usually orders for you? My neurologist is great---but a bit in the dark about some of this stuff so going for appointment in two weeks and want to go prepared. Hope you see this--don't know how to reach specific folks. Thanks ahead of time for all information. Hope I did this correctly. New to writing on forums.
Ashbet said:
This is a cream which my neuro prescribed -- I get rigid locked-up muscles in my neck/trapezius area when the pain is bad, so the combination of muscle relaxers and nerve agents helps, some.
It's not a miracle, but it at least helps me sleep when I'm in pain (ketamine will KNOCK YOU OUT, be careful not to overdo it and apply more than prescribed), and it helps with my peripheral neuropathy and actually does a lot for my hands/feet.
I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (which makes me more prone to neuralgia/neuropathy in the first place), and I'm lidocaine-insensitive because of EDS (whichever mutation causes my type also seems to create a far higher prevalence of lidocaine insensitivity than in the normal population), which is why I'm using bupivicaine (Marcaine) as the last ingredient. Most people would use lidocaine instead -- but it's worth trying a different formulation if the first one you try isn't effective.
Mine is from "Institutional Pharmacy Solutions" -- your doctor calls in the script and they mail it to you. For me, one bottle lasts a couple of months.
No, I have no side affects. Its a smooth cream, about the texture of a hand lotion cream ladies use.
Scared & Angry gal said:
I'm curous Jimmy Works, if you get any side effects at all from the cream such as fatigue, etc... Jimmy Works said:
PetMommy, you can email me direct if you wish. jcworks@bellsouth.net. The compounding pharmacy I use is The Compounding Shoppe, 3349 Independence Drive, Birmingham, AL 35209. Ph: 205-870-3150. It comes in a container much like men's shaving cream. You pump out just the amount you need. The pharmacist said to first put it behind the ear on the boney part right behind the earlobe, extend it down a little to just below the earlobe; and to put on the face in front of the ear lobe and extend down a little on the jaw bone. I just spread mine on that area he said (mostly). Sometimes I'll put it on the area that actually hurts too. The directions say its ok to do that. Its called Custom Rx Gel. It is a mix of GABA/AMITRIP/LIDO/KETO/FLURBI/BACLO 6/4/5/4/10/2% IN LIPODE. Whatever all that means. It cost me $30 and they FedEx it to you free. It works for me, but I'm on meds already. But it does help when it breaks through. It helps the most on the neuropathy as that is what most of my issues are....along with some TN left over from previous treatments.
PetMommy said:
Hello, I am very pleased to read about your particular combination of meds in your compound cream---and the compound cream itself. I have been thru so much with TN--as many have---10 years worth of surgeries, treatments, meds, etc.--to include really poor medical care. Story not necessary at this point. This compound cream really intrigues me!!! I used Lidoderm patches with some favorable results so---I feel this cream might be somewhat of an answer for me. I want to approach my neurologist with all information possible. I have a compound pharmacy local, but since I have such bad experiences with medical care in my state, I am thinking I might want to get this compound cream out of state. You seem very pleased with your cream. I am assuming you like the medium the medications are compounded in---meaning it is very spreadable on your face? Ok---so I am replying to Ashbet in particular---you said you get your cream from Institutional Pharmacies---do you have the phone number, and maybe address? Of course, I am open to others on the forum who have found a nice creamy compound cream--I can certainly get my neurologist to order any medications I may need. I know some folks mentioned cost---my insurance will pay--up to $1500. Oh--do you know the typical amount the neurologist usually orders for you? My neurologist is great---but a bit in the dark about some of this stuff so going for appointment in two weeks and want to go prepared. Hope you see this--don't know how to reach specific folks. Thanks ahead of time for all information. Hope I did this correctly. New to writing on forums.
Ashbet said:
This is a cream which my neuro prescribed -- I get rigid locked-up muscles in my neck/trapezius area when the pain is bad, so the combination of muscle relaxers and nerve agents helps, some.
It's not a miracle, but it at least helps me sleep when I'm in pain (ketamine will KNOCK YOU OUT, be careful not to overdo it and apply more than prescribed), and it helps with my peripheral neuropathy and actually does a lot for my hands/feet.
I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (which makes me more prone to neuralgia/neuropathy in the first place), and I'm lidocaine-insensitive because of EDS (whichever mutation causes my type also seems to create a far higher prevalence of lidocaine insensitivity than in the normal population), which is why I'm using bupivicaine (Marcaine) as the last ingredient. Most people would use lidocaine instead -- but it's worth trying a different formulation if the first one you try isn't effective.
Mine is from "Institutional Pharmacy Solutions" -- your doctor calls in the script and they mail it to you. For me, one bottle lasts a couple of months.
Wanted to say thanks for the information you put out on this forum about your cream---I had my neurologist appointment and she was more than willing to order some for me, and said that your formula seemed like a good place to start---so many thanks for putting so much information out there. I decided to try a local compound pharmacy, and they mixed me up a sample tube. Well, I have to say I am pleased with the results of the medications in the cream--however, I am very upset about the cream they mixed the medicines in. They called it Lipoderm---and it is horrible! They said it is special for allowing the medicines to topically go into the skin layers---but there is a horrible greasy layer left on the surface of my skin after I apply---even a tiny amount, and then even if I wait a few minutes for the medicine to absorb and gently wipe the greasy residue off, then it feels sticky. I know it is all about pain control, but with this stuff I can't go out of the house, put on makeup, and if I need to lay down I have to be careful to not get it on my blankets, etc. SO---can you shed any light for me---is your cream base like this? I know you said you get yours out of California, I think. I wanted something for my face that absorbed into the skin and didn't leave a nasty, messy after effect. Any thoughts would be very helpful as right now I have no interest in using the cream, and feeling a little sad about this pain control option. Welcome your input. If anyone else sees this reply and has helpful suggestions or knows of pharmacy that mixes a better cream please speak up. Thank you.
Ashbet said:
This is a cream which my neuro prescribed -- I get rigid locked-up muscles in my neck/trapezius area when the pain is bad, so the combination of muscle relaxers and nerve agents helps, some.
It's not a miracle, but it at least helps me sleep when I'm in pain (ketamine will KNOCK YOU OUT, be careful not to overdo it and apply more than prescribed), and it helps with my peripheral neuropathy and actually does a lot for my hands/feet.
I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (which makes me more prone to neuralgia/neuropathy in the first place), and I'm lidocaine-insensitive because of EDS (whichever mutation causes my type also seems to create a far higher prevalence of lidocaine insensitivity than in the normal population), which is why I'm using bupivicaine (Marcaine) as the last ingredient. Most people would use lidocaine instead -- but it's worth trying a different formulation if the first one you try isn't effective.
Mine is from "Institutional Pharmacy Solutions" -- your doctor calls in the script and they mail it to you. For me, one bottle lasts a couple of months.
Yes, the cream does leave that on the skin. If the compounding shop you're using has an alternative to the Lipoderm you mentioned try that. Frankly, I don't care. I'm a man. I can use the cream to help or I can hurt. I choose not hurting
PetMommy said:
To Ashbet:
Wanted to say thanks for the information you put out on this forum about your cream---I had my neurologist appointment and she was more than willing to order some for me, and said that your formula seemed like a good place to start---so many thanks for putting so much information out there. I decided to try a local compound pharmacy, and they mixed me up a sample tube. Well, I have to say I am pleased with the results of the medications in the cream--however, I am very upset about the cream they mixed the medicines in. They called it Lipoderm---and it is horrible! They said it is special for allowing the medicines to topically go into the skin layers---but there is a horrible greasy layer left on the surface of my skin after I apply---even a tiny amount, and then even if I wait a few minutes for the medicine to absorb and gently wipe the greasy residue off, then it feels sticky. I know it is all about pain control, but with this stuff I can't go out of the house, put on makeup, and if I need to lay down I have to be careful to not get it on my blankets, etc. SO---can you shed any light for me---is your cream base like this? I know you said you get yours out of California, I think. I wanted something for my face that absorbed into the skin and didn't leave a nasty, messy after effect. Any thoughts would be very helpful as right now I have no interest in using the cream, and feeling a little sad about this pain control option. Welcome your input. If anyone else sees this reply and has helpful suggestions or knows of pharmacy that mixes a better cream please speak up. Thank you.
Ashbet said:
This is a cream which my neuro prescribed -- I get rigid locked-up muscles in my neck/trapezius area when the pain is bad, so the combination of muscle relaxers and nerve agents helps, some.
It's not a miracle, but it at least helps me sleep when I'm in pain (ketamine will KNOCK YOU OUT, be careful not to overdo it and apply more than prescribed), and it helps with my peripheral neuropathy and actually does a lot for my hands/feet.
I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (which makes me more prone to neuralgia/neuropathy in the first place), and I'm lidocaine-insensitive because of EDS (whichever mutation causes my type also seems to create a far higher prevalence of lidocaine insensitivity than in the normal population), which is why I'm using bupivicaine (Marcaine) as the last ingredient. Most people would use lidocaine instead -- but it's worth trying a different formulation if the first one you try isn't effective.
Mine is from "Institutional Pharmacy Solutions" -- your doctor calls in the script and they mail it to you. For me, one bottle lasts a couple of months.
Well, mine wouldn't have been in LidoDerm, because I'm lidocaine-insensitive.
I find the bupivicaine-formulation cream to rub into the skin better than the lidocaine formulation, which was greasy/gritty. There is still some level of residue with the bupivicaine cream, but far less than with lidocaine. I'd suggest talking to my compounding pharmacy to see what they call the cream base that they're putting mine into (they should be able to tell you if you read them the prescription that I shared above.)
Obviously, they can't share medical information about a patient (me), but I would think that they'd have a formulation recorded for this custom blend -- you can just say that a friend is currently receiving it and is happy with the formula and texture.
You will want to wash your hands with soap afterward (this stuff tastes nasty and stings if it gets in your eyes), since you don't need the numbing property for your hands (I also have peripheral neuropathy, so I leave it on.)
I don't find that the residue it leaves on my face (to be fair, I primarily use it on my neck and trapezius muscles, but also on my jaw/throat, around my ear, and sometimes on my cheek) to be terribly visible or unsightly. If you rub it in well, I'd imagine that you could at least wear powder over it (I don't know about liquid foundation -- I don't use it.) I've put powder over it without incident.
I think the main problem is that the lidocaine formulation (LidoDerm or whatever my compounding pharmacy originally used, because my first prescription was for a lidocaine-containing cream -- we had to do some experimentation to come up with a local anesthetic that would work around my lidocaine insensitivity) doesn't absorb very well, in my experience or in yours.
If you can get your doctor to write a prescription for a bupivicaine formulation, like mine, I have a feeling that you'll be happier with the cream.
Best of luck, and hope you can find something that works for you -- if worse comes to worst, mix it with some moisturizer to dilute the cream and get it to sink in better. It's not a perfect solution, but it's better than being in agony!
-- Andi <3
PetMommy said:
To Ashbet:
Wanted to say thanks for the information you put out on this forum about your cream---I had my neurologist appointment and she was more than willing to order some for me, and said that your formula seemed like a good place to start---so many thanks for putting so much information out there. I decided to try a local compound pharmacy, and they mixed me up a sample tube. Well, I have to say I am pleased with the results of the medications in the cream--however, I am very upset about the cream they mixed the medicines in. They called it Lipoderm---and it is horrible! They said it is special for allowing the medicines to topically go into the skin layers---but there is a horrible greasy layer left on the surface of my skin after I apply---even a tiny amount, and then even if I wait a few minutes for the medicine to absorb and gently wipe the greasy residue off, then it feels sticky. I know it is all about pain control, but with this stuff I can't go out of the house, put on makeup, and if I need to lay down I have to be careful to not get it on my blankets, etc. SO---can you shed any light for me---is your cream base like this? I know you said you get yours out of California, I think. I wanted something for my face that absorbed into the skin and didn't leave a nasty, messy after effect. Any thoughts would be very helpful as right now I have no interest in using the cream, and feeling a little sad about this pain control option. Welcome your input. If anyone else sees this reply and has helpful suggestions or knows of pharmacy that mixes a better cream please speak up. Thank you.
I tried looking for that cream you mentioned, Gallaxia, and I could not find it. Once in awhile i use a cream called Blu Emu works for mild pain.
Jimmy Works said:
Yes. I have done this. Its a mixture of different meds in a cream. The label on mine just says Custom Rx Gel. I had to ASK my neuro for it. He never even thought to prescribe it. After all these years he doesn't think to prescribe it !! Can you believe that ?? I have sense switched neuros. I got mine from The Compound Shoppe in Birmingham, AL. The label reads: GABA/AMITRIP/LIDO/KETO/FLURBI/BACLO. I would think any compounding shop can do it though. A prescription is needed. It does help me. I will also tell this......which I learned from the pharmacist....not the neuro. He said rub it on the part of your face in front of your ear lobe. Also, rub it behind the ear on the boney part of your head behind the ear. I found that the pharmacist was right ! It did help more. Of course, rub it on the part of your face where the pain is too. But the other two place mentioned here really helped a lot. One other thing I use. The Gallaxia cream which is non-prescription also works. Especially if its a milder pain. For me it works really well. No prescription needed. Its made by someone in Calif. I was skeptical at first so they just sent me a jar of it. To my surprise it helped with the crawling, tingling, bees-like stuff. I cant vouch for working on TN lightning shocks. I really doubt it would. But for the other sensations it helps me. You can look it up online.
I had the spelling of the cream wrong. Is GALLIXA. Its not real expensive and its worth a try. For me, it helps. And its worth the small price. It doesn't cure of course, but "most" of the time it does help the neuropathy pain. I doubt it will help severe TN pain but for my neuropathy pain it helps. Its worth a try. Here's the link for it. http://gallixa.com/
I do have one suggestion for anyone getting compound cream mixed up at the Pharmacy. Ask for 2 bottles, one to keep at home and the other in a container under 3 ounces. So you can keep in your purse, desk or if you are like me and like to travel you can take it with your carry on luggage.
My prescription compound cream has
.08% meloxicam , 2.5% Topiramate, 2% Lidocaine, 2% Prilocaine
This is in a face formula and the caines wear off in 3 hours, so I reapply small amounts frequently. The pharmacist says the drugs are absorbed in 10 min. I put some in a small container and always have it with me.
Since arriving, I’ve been able to stop heavy duty pain killers and only use occasionally. Why it took one of many drs so long to prescribe,I don’t know. My friend has migraines and has used it to stop the beginning triggers of that too!
Right now, I’m most appreciative to having my chronic Atypical Trigeminal Neuralgia pain improved.
I had a similar compound, but found it to be no help for me. But as we have seen multiple times, what works for one doesn't always work for another. I would definitely try it and see how it goes for you.